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Old 05-07-2002, 11:53 AM   #161
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No it is stuff like this that gets me miffed and then I feel the need to defend my point of view, especially since I'm bloody good at this game Before Patch and am still doing well now that it is here. I dare say I know a n00b on a server when I see one.
What I meant with the common thug comparison is that it is easy to lable these people because they have very stereotypical behaviour.
I just mean that, since I did well before and am doing well after patch, it isn't the game that is at fault. It is the people who are playing it.
Jesus dude!! Get real!!! If you think its so boring with DFA, Y dont you just take one step aside or two steps bak and kill the bugger? Oooh,, sorry,, "one step aside" meens that you pres the button so that the grafical figure on you computer screen moves to one side....
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Old 05-07-2002, 11:58 AM   #162
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Cerebral, what point are you trying to make?
V-Tecc, point heard and understood. But when I came here I hadn't expected so many people to hate this patch and god knows how many posts came up with unfair criticism towards Raven and the game. Your entitled to not like it, but I hadn't quite caught on to why you don't like it... cause the features changed? They stayed the same with minor adjustments. More practice in it will make you enjoy it more.
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Old 05-07-2002, 12:01 PM   #163
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I think we should all just play the new style of the game for about a week or so and attempt to get used to it.

If we still don't like it, sure, start working on a patch request thread.

The transition from SP to MP was very frustrating for a lot of people because the saber style was so different.

Now it's probably easier for SP players to get into MP.

I personally find the saber style now easier to control, and I first thought that any gameplay tweaks would be bad for the game.

How about giving it a week of serious open-minded attempts at playing and than come back and tell everyone what's wrong?

Good deal?
Hehe... It's a deal if you come back first after a week of "serious open-minded attempts at playing" before you come here and tell us what's so good about it, deal?

You where one of the first to celebrate this patch, so why can't I be early to dislike it?

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Old 05-07-2002, 12:03 PM   #164
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Congratulations, people...

...y'all just got owned. If this community suffers, it is on the account of some vocal elements in the said community.

Even if Yoda never said this, now he probably would:

"Careful be you of what ask you for; get it you just might."

God damn it...


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Old 05-07-2002, 12:09 PM   #165
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Hehe... It's a deal if you come back first after a week of "serious open-minded attempts at playing" before you come here and tell us what's so good about it, deal?

You where one of the first to celebrate this patch, so why can't I be early to dislike it?

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Good one,, Try learning the game before you diss it.. Some peolpe have all there life been cheaters,, it follows them thrue life and thay need patches to be able to pla a simple game,, Do thay patch real life aswell maby? "Ooooh,, it so hard to learn to read,, can god please patch me so I dont have to do anything"

WHIMPS!

V-tecc rules,, He got his ass kicked before he got the hang of it,, now he could kick all your BOT-butts...
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Old 05-07-2002, 12:25 PM   #166
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Well Dear Mr Foolish.

Im on the same timeline as most people on earth. You on the other hand seem to think you come from Hoth or somewhare.. People that complain that the game is to hard, (you) should try SIMS och any Tycoon game,, maby you can make it without a walkthrue. This patch is 4 loosers that are to lazy to get skilled at it.
Did I say the game was too hard? Um, "Speeder eater" or whatever? I played the game before the patch, I've posted on here that I THOUGHT the heavy stance was a bit overpowered and WISHED that the light stance wasn't so useless. In either case I played the game and enjoyed, its probably the ONLY online game I'm playing right now. Calling me a "looser"? Sounds like something your "rancor" momma tells her customers.

Was that a flame? Probably, but you deserve for assuming I'm lazy, and non-skilled. Considering that EVERYONE knows for a FACT that lightsaber battles take LONGER and require MORE skill than pre-patch.. who the hell is lazy? You.

Who needs some skill and a spelling book? You.

My saber is as sharp as my tongue, test me sometime...Oops I forgot your fearsome DFA mova has been modified.. WAAAAAMMMMBUULAAANNCEEE!!!
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Old 05-07-2002, 12:29 PM   #167
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IMHO,

I really like the changes to the saber combat.
I think that that has been ehat has been needed to truly distinguish the game from just another Quake clone.
It does feel more like SP now. That is good.

I would have preferred a more medium ground on the ammo usage for the guns secondary fire.

I use both guns and sabers in team competitive play on ladders. By changing the amount of ammo used it has made it much more difficult in CTF/CTY games to defend the flag or the Ysalamri or to chase down an enemy flag carrier. Ammo IS scarce on the maps and does not refresh very quickly. That is why you will find the gun users complaining.

I like the way Drain has been handled, as well as Absorb. I find that both of these play well. I would like to see Heal change to more of a middle ground but that is personal preference as a flag runner.

I like the patch in many ways but there are aspects of it that make it a very anti-competitive patch. It is good for public servers but not for team ladder competitions. This is again for a clan point of view.

This is my opinion. I have stated it as such. I do not wish to be flamed.


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Old 05-07-2002, 12:41 PM   #168
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No matter what Raven changes there will always be someone that is unhappy. The only complaint I have is the double tap to kick, but that's something that I am willing to adapt too.

You think this will be the only patch? Chances are that you're sorely mistaken. It's great that Raven have some aftersales support, and that they actually listen to the community.
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Old 05-07-2002, 12:47 PM   #169
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Here's my two cents:

As far as DFA spamming goes, I never encountered the problem to the extent that most of the players on these forums supposedly did. That's not to say it wasn't a problem, just that I didn't experience it.

I will admit that it was pretty irritating the few times that I did encounter DFA spamming. One time, some imbecile decided he'd do it on the Raven Labs level. The match had to last at least 6 minutes, no lie, and consisted of little more than me spinning around in medium "like Brian Boitano on crack" as one poster suggested (sorry for not quoting). Did I win? Yep, without a health point lost. Did I enjoy myself? Nope. It sucked hard. I was especially offended when the loser congratulated me on my victory, as if I had somehow managed to slip from his almighty grasp.

I've played with the patch for about 5 hours total now, and unlike most of you, my opinion is somewhat ambiguous.

I like most of the changes. I think blue is infinitely more useful, and two duelers using blue is intensely exciting, even if the duel lasts longer than usual. I'll take an extra two or three minutes of watching a duel on a server if it's a real duel as opposed to the typical red back up, charge in strategy. I generally like what they did with red; it isn't so much slower that is is unusable, and it actually leaves it's proponents open to counter attacks, as the manual suggests (incorrectly prior to 1.03). I think yellow may have gotten the short end of the stick here. I liked the spinning before, as long as it wasn't abused. The way it is now, it feels a little too much like blue. It does, however, resemble most closely the style used in the original trilogy of films. This is of the utmost importance in my opinion; others may prefer the game to be first a game, then a representative of the movie. I don't, but I won't disrespect your opinion.

One thing I am disappointed in is the difficulty I am having in attacking a blatantly open spot on an opponent, even if they are standing still. In 1.02, I could strike hard on my enemy if I saw an opening, even if they were not moving. Now, all of the combatants resemble some type of contortionist, twisting to ungodly positions in an instant to block an attack that should obviously be landed.

I must admit that I've never seen a patch in any game that so drastically changed the mechanics, literally overnight. This is definitely contributed to the great Patch/Flame War now ensuing.

Overall, Raven has not found the happy medium between film representation and feasible gameplay, but I sincerely believe that they are closer now than previously. If you plan to respond to this post, do so with the same tact and dignity that I have tried to present, or don't respond at all. I won't argue with an idiot; I find that idiots drag people down to their level and then beat them with experience.


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Old 05-07-2002, 12:47 PM   #170
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I too was good at this game before the patch, in fact I rarely lost.
And I (so far) don't like the patch. that's my opinion and I'll defend it if I must.

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So you don't like it now because you lose? Or it takes longer to win?

I won pre-patch too. However I found it silly the radius and "collision detection" that someone mentioned previously, is kinda screwed.

I've killed players that according to what I see on my screen. BLOCKED my heavy swing, but somehow the tip or the finishing portion of the swing killed them, and it appeared not to make contact. It has happened to me, and I think that's a bit ridiculous. The backward lunge from heavy is still a big dmg dealer, and now you can chain two heavy swings almost or killing someone quickly, now you just have to land them.

With Force Defend on its highest level it blocks almost all forward attacks EXCEPT if your swinging or using a force power. As it should be, from above, under, behind you can still score hits. So basically it appears to ME, that the new strategy is.

Time attacks, when JK2 first came out everyone thought they could spam away and win, then most people learned some SKILLS. Attack when foe swings and misses, with the right combo not just a button mash, switch stances based on your opponents strategy.

If someone is using heavy, go med or light, and try to score 2-4 hits if they miss.

If someone is light, go med, and try to score some hits above, or behind by going around them, if they are just slashing away, use force push or pull and knock their asses over.

If someone is saber throwing and running, go light, block shots and score a push/pull or grip, if the person is running wildly there is a small chance the saber won't return to them right away until they stand up and hit "fire" again. Allowing you to score some hits.

Althought the med finisher is harder to pull off, I think it does more dmg, need someone to confirm this. I was killing bots with 2 med slashes and a med finisher.

Someone posted the DFA can now be done with a combo move (one slash, then DFA move), meaning that CLOSE QUARTERS would be ideal for a DFA move, when your opponent cannot escape and dodge quickly. IN other words, you cannot DFA DFA DFA DFA DFA turn slash.. all day long.

I know not every fan of the heavy stance overused DFA. ANd I know PLENTY of people here have skill...but even the ones that are really skilled pre-patch have to agree that any NOOB that read a JK2 site can learn how to DFA and usually overused it.

---Two cool things I think have happened due to the patch.

1) I've had this game since it came out, and killing noobies to me is no fun, some people dig it, I don't. In away this levels the playing field, we are all "noobs" so to speak, all over again as we get used to the new combat system.

2) If you played with precision and style before then post-patch isn't a problem, just takes a bit longer, in a crazed FFA match (if that was your favorite) I can see why that is a problem. But ON THE BRIGHT side, its not so easy for people you've been trying to kill to turn run heal so easily. People were comlaining before that people who run and heal are too annoying, and that heal was too strong allowing battles to go on indefinetly. It's all a matter of perspective.. I still love the game post and pre patched.

Also remember, that this might not be the ONLY PATCH ever made for this game.
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Old 05-07-2002, 12:48 PM   #171
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Did I say the game was too hard? Um, "Speeder eater" or whatever? I played the game before the patch, I've posted on here that I THOUGHT the heavy stance was a bit overpowered and WISHED that the light stance wasn't so useless. In either case I played the game and enjoyed, its probably the ONLY online game I'm playing right now. Calling me a "looser"? Sounds like something your "rancor" momma tells her customers.

Was that a flame? Probably, but you deserve for assuming I'm lazy, and non-skilled. Considering that EVERYONE knows for a FACT that lightsaber battles take LONGER and require MORE skill than pre-patch.. who the hell is lazy? You.

Who needs some skill and a spelling book? You.

My saber is as sharp as my tongue, test me sometime...Oops I forgot your fearsome DFA mova has been modified.. WAAAAAMMMMBUULAAANNCEEE!!!
Well well,, Your thinking is as slow as Red Stance,, "Speeder eater" Jesus dude,, Nerd or what!?! Get a ****in life,, I think that all the people that want to play the game in cheating mode (patched) can do so,, But dont come crying to the real players that you really suck at the real game, get real! And another thing,, WHAT ****IN SABER? Its pixels,, 1:s and 0:s in a computer,, You dont have a saber,, maby you should try going outside to the real world "NEO",,, ANd if you didnt know,, a rancor i a puppet,, NOT a real animal or alien creature you pissant! Ohh, sorry, did I shatter you world now,, Dude Its not real,, it a film and a game.. freak...whos wearing the jar jar jammies now?
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:00 PM   #172
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Ceretroll, you suck at the English.

You notice the " "'s that was me mocking your DUMB attempt at a jibe... You said "I was from Hoth" ahhaha.. lame.

If you thought my retort was lame, its simply a mirrored response to your non-thought out posts. "Looser"! (Look more quotes)

I should have rethought that post however, knowing that you spend hours fascinated by your bathroom mirrors and twist-ties. I didn't mean to cave in your skull with a few words.

This is a game forum, so I will challenge you to a game. I don't get upset about stupid things like a patch. If you and I were in the "real world" together and I was upset, we'd be fist fighting, or in each other's faces yelling. That's the real world, and we are discussing a PATCH for a GAME. Lightsabers aren't real? What a shocker...this is stupid... let's move on to the only comment you made that was sort of based on JK2.

How is the patch a cheat? You simpleton. Care to explain how this is a cheat? Is there a bug people can exploit? Is there any rhyme or reason to this statement other than YOU cannot KILL people with ONE MOVE only (even if you dont truly connect)? Can you not kill people now? Is light stance TOO strong now? I want an explanation other than just NOW SABER BATTLES TAKE TOO LONG.

I played this crap for 2 and a half hours last night, and was still killing things. I don't think this patch is as horrid or even bad at all, I like it. BUt I gave you reasons why I liked it...Cerebral why don't you like it. I don't see this spam thing as a threat as some people didn't see DFA as a threat because there are counters to people who spam. Push/pull/throw/jump/med finisher/strafe/timing/light lunge/etc!!
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:00 PM   #173
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Cerebral be quiet before someone takes advantage of how lathargic you are. We don't want a flame war in this sticky.

Do not have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:02 PM   #174
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No matter how good or bad the patch is, for all the hard work of the RAVEN team we have to express our gratitude to the hard working people!

And i think there are GOOD and BAD things about the patch
but overall i like it.

THE GOOD:

The Lightsaber battles are WAY more intense which i pretty like.
Yes i think the stances are quit different and WAY faster.
Although Fast and furious, it does take an amount of time for the above average ppl to adjust, and simply easier for newbies to adapt.
The maps are awesome too though
Single Player fixes are nice
DFA is nicely nerfed, those ppl who say they can't do DFA is crap.... cuz i can do it whenever i want to.


THE BAD:

Most servers dun support (Temporary i believe, not a big problem)
Takes time to adjust
Possibilty of super spinning spam with light stance....



And thats all..... if u play more, u will discover the WONDERS of this new patch.

PS> The Medium Stance IS NOT WEAKER, it is in fact BETTER, cuz once u use it and adjust to its needs, it is VERY powerful


and THX RAVEN FOR UR WONDERFUL PATCH
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:04 PM   #175
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I think the problem was that Raven did a too good job of listening to the community. Before the game came out, tonnes of people were preaching the glory of the speed of JK1, where all combat was was running towards eachother at 60kph and pressing alternate fire. Raven tried to impress everybody, by keeping the SP the way duels should be, and slowing down, but pretty much keeping the same as, JK1 in MP. They turned JK2 duelling into JK1 duelling - a heavy swing lance fest.

And over the past month, we all adapted and flourished in the only slightly diferent playing style. Now that they have realised their mistake, and are attempting to set things back as they should be. You "whiners" have become so complacent in your own playing style, that you are afraid to try out other ways to win. I will say now that I have not played this patch online yet - but notice nowhere have I stated any prejudgemental opinions on these changes.

ADAPT.

I could be pretty sure that all of you had to adapt to JO's MP when you first started playing, why cant you now?


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Old 05-07-2002, 01:04 PM   #176
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So you don't like it now because you lose? Or it takes longer to win?
If you would put the same effort into feedback reading as you seem to put into your writing you would find that I already posted what I don't like about the patch.
I haven't said that I loose now, mind you that.

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Old 05-07-2002, 01:09 PM   #177
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Congratulations Raven on a superb update! Everything to do with duelling seems to work so much errr - better!!

So much so I havent had a chance to appreciate any other improvements yet ;]

PS - I have it on Kazaa for anyone that is having trouble getting hold of it. Just do a search for jedi outcast patch.
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:14 PM   #178
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and THX RAVEN FOR UR WONDERFUL PATCH
HERE HERE!
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:16 PM   #179
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If you would put the same effort into feedback reading as you seem to put into your writing you would find that I already posted what I don't like about the patch.
I haven't said that I loose now, mind you that.

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No, at the moment, I am at work and going only on what I remember. You mentioned you didn't like the fact that DFA was screwed, and the blocks made it harder. Was that the extent of your dislike?

AND IT'S


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Old 05-07-2002, 01:18 PM   #180
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I am just wondering why so many people think that this SP system in MP works so much better. The reason why it was so good in SP is because it was SP, lag free. In the lag filled environment of MP, only the host will experience what it truly should be like. Close quarters combat like they are introducing to us will be murder to people with even a bit of lag. I think that they should have left things the same, but they didn't so I suppose we will have to adapt. All the broadband users out there will be reaping the benefits the most though, as well as the hosts once again.
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:18 PM   #181
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Ceretroll, you suck at the English.

You notice the " "'s that was me mocking your DUMB attempt at a jibe... You said "I was from Hoth" ahhaha.. lame.

If you thought my retort was lame, its simply a mirrored response to your non-thought out posts. "Looser"! (Look more quotes)

I should have rethought that post however, knowing that you spend hours fascinated by your bathroom mirrors and twist-ties. I didn't mean to cave in your skull with a few words.

This is a game forum, so I will challenge you to a game. I don't get upset about stupid things like a patch. If you and I were in the "real world" together and I was upset, we'd be fist fighting, or in each other's faces yelling. That's the real world, and we are discussing a PATCH for a GAME. Lightsabers aren't real? What a shocker...this is stupid... let's move on to the only comment you made that was sort of based on JK2.

How is the patch a cheat? You simpleton. Care to explain how this is a cheat? Is there a bug people can exploit? Is there any rhyme or reason to this statement other than YOU cannot KILL people with ONE MOVE only (even if you dont truly connect)? Can you not kill people now? Is light stance TOO strong now? I want an explanation other than just NOW SABER BATTLES TAKE TOO LONG.

I played this crap for 2 and a half hours last night, and was still killing things. I don't think this patch is as horrid or even bad at all, I like it. BUt I gave you reasons why I liked it...Cerebral why don't you like it. I don't see this spam thing as a threat as some people didn't see DFA as a threat because there are counters to people who spam. Push/pull/throw/jump/med finisher/strafe/timing/light lunge/etc!!
Firts off, I never use Red Stance ora DFA and never said I did.. Second,, If this was real life I would take my 5 years i prison and Shootfighting skills and show your whimpy-auther-ass how you can kill someone i one moove.. Just name place and time and ill fist your face to the moon, (a real place in space)

I dont like the patch because it narrows the differance between stances, and it takes 4 ever to kill someone,, jesus, do you now that real lazers are verry hot.. They do do damage,, now any fool can get lucky,,,
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:27 PM   #182
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Firts off
AHHAHAHAHAHH - Maybe you meant SKIRTS OFF you "hardened" criminal.

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I never use Red Stance oral DFA
You oral DFA? WHat? Are we still talking about a game here?

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Second,, If this was real life I would take my 5 years i prison
AHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAa ***** WIPES TEAR*****

Listen chump, being chained to your crib while your Dad beats you on the head with a rattle, doesn't equal to PRISON TIME. THat was the lamest dumbest thing you could have said. Shootfighting skills? There is no skill in shooting.

Case and point. Any person can point a gun and kill even a 5 year old kid, if you don't believe me look it up on the 'net. In any case, I really think you should stop sniffing paint before you post. I'm about as scared of you as I am of a discarded napkin. I do not fear people who tug on their nipples and start shouting "I WAS IN PRISON" on a JEDI KNIGHT II FORUM.. HAHHAHAHAHAHAH ... AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHA...

I could be anybody across this screen, you got it chump? Please think before you retard (read: speak).


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Five years in prison and the best you can come up with is "You are from Hoth" and "Wimpy-auther-ass"? It's author, junior.

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I dont like the patch because it narrows the differance between stances
Yes, it makes light NOT USELESS, heavy NOT THE ONLY STANCE TO USE, and medium somewhere in between. Why release stances, in your eyes they should have just made JK2 like JK1 one stance, 1 dimensional, mindless button mashing, just like you and your WARDEN like it.
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:31 PM   #183
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He says he wants an explanation other than "It takes too long" and you say:

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I dont like the patch because it narrows the differance between stances, and it takes 4 ever to kill someone,, jesus, do you now that real lazers are verry hot.. They do do damage,, now any fool can get lucky,,,
Not very bright are we?
I think my 3-year old nephew sounds more convincing when threatening people than when you tried in the other half of your post. Please start making sense, or just shut up altogether.
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:34 PM   #184
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No, at the moment, I am at work and going only on what I remember. You mentioned you didn't like the fact that DFA was screwed, and the blocks made it harder. Was that the extent of your dislike?

AND IT'S


LOSE
No, read again. To write before you read is like wiping your ass before you take a crap.

So, excuse me if my English isn't as perfected as yours (seriously don't know why you are insulting me there) But it's not my mother tounge, how good is your Swedish by the way?
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:34 PM   #185
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Alright, I like the patch alot but...

Teamwarfare advised not to update machines to the new version and niether should the servers... thread link: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthrea...threadid=51286

There's a possibility that some people might stick to the original game and others will play the new patch, and I'm caught in the middle


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Old 05-07-2002, 01:37 PM   #186
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^--- And no, I'm not whining - it's more of a warning to people as well as a fear of mine.


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Old 05-07-2002, 01:38 PM   #187
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AHHAHAHAHAHH - Maybe you meant SKIRTS OFF you "hardened" criminal.



You oral DFA? WHat? Are we still talking about a game here?



AHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAa ***** WIPES TEAR*****

Listen chump, being chained to your crib while your Dad beats you on the head with a rattle, doesn't equal to PRISON TIME. THat was the lamest dumbest thing you could have said. Shootfighting skills? There is no skill in shooting.

Case and point. Any person can point a gun and kill even a 5 year old kid, if you don't believe me look it up on the 'net. In any case, I really think you should stop sniffing paint before you post. I'm about as scared of you as I am of a discarded napkin. I do not fear people who tug on their nipples and start shouting "I WAS IN PRISON" on a JEDI KNIGHT II FORUM.. HAHHAHAHAHAHAH ... AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHA...

I could be anybody across this screen, you got it chump? Please think before you retard (read: speak).




Five years in prison and the best you can come up with is "You are from Hoth" and "Wimpy-auther-ass"? It's author, junior.



Yes, it makes light NOT USELESS, heavy NOT THE ONLY STANCE TO USE, and medium somewhere in between. Why release stances, in your eyes they should have just made JK2 like JK1 one stance, 1 dimensional, mindless button mashing, just like you and your WARDEN like it.
Listen you IDIOT,, my farther died last month so be careful!!!! Shoot fighting isnt shooting,, get outside and maby you will learn somthing of real life,, shootfighting is like Ultimate fighting you turd.. Just name place and time and we can see how tough you are away from your life,,, sorry computer.. No, read again. You know, to write before you read is like wiping your ass before you take a crap. (ora =or,, where did you see oral? OR are you wishing 4 a littlesister?)

Excuse me if my English isn't as perfected as yours (seriously don't know why you are insulting me there) But it's not my mother tounge, how good is your Swedish?
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:43 PM   #188
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Insulting other peoples language and spelling skills is rather stupid considering that not everyone comes from an English speaking nation. And yes, there is more than one language.
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:43 PM   #189
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oi oi, everyone should just calm down now - don't bother, I'm sure you guys have more important things in life rather than flaming each other.

So go have something cold to drink, think for a while, read abit and come back later.

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Old 05-07-2002, 01:50 PM   #190
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Insulting other peoples language and spelling skills is rather stupid considering that not everyone comes from an English speaking nation. And yes, there is more than one language.
Thanx dude,, this idiot seems to take my diss of the patch personally,, why, who knows, but the Fu**er started to diss my parents and everything,, I just hope he lives in Sweden so I can whip his ass....
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:53 PM   #191
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oi oi, everyone should just calm down now - don't bother, I'm sure you guys have more important things in life rather than flaming each other.

So go have something cold to drink, think for a while, read abit and come back later.

Cheers
Well I was just dissing the patch,, everyone has thair opinion about it, but this **** started to diss my parents and spelling and so on.. Nerd,, 1:st class nerd,, Where do you stand on the patch subject?
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Old 05-07-2002, 01:55 PM   #192
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At the moment I'm very neutral. If the patch just included a DFA tweak I would have been content. My only worry is that Ladder Games at teamwarfare won't be using the new patch, at least not for now


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Old 05-07-2002, 01:58 PM   #193
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Did they Nerf the Morgan Ghost skin?

The original Console code doesnt seem to acces it anymore..

if so.. Why?

I mean, I have never heard any1 complain about it, and i think i was a cool addition to the models..

any1?


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Old 05-07-2002, 02:01 PM   #194
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At the moment I'm very neutral. If the patch just included a DFA tweak I would have been content. My only worry is that Ladder Games at teamwarfare won't be using the new patch, at least not for now
Drain is all screwed up as well,, I dont understand why they release a game and then just turn around´on it,, CS still rules eaven if it sux in grafic performance,,, I was eager to play Jedi,, but all this **** is making it booring I think,, I just hope thay dont find other thing to change,,,
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Old 05-07-2002, 02:06 PM   #195
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Just another vote for this patch being the best thing since sliced bantha. WOOT!

Personal favorite changes:

DFA being nerfed (eat it DFA monkeys)
Absorb not glowing constantly now
Light being improved
Heal and drain needing more force
The improved sp-style blocking/parrying
Duel character changes no longer constantly sending you to the back of the line

Thanks Raven!


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Old 05-07-2002, 02:06 PM   #196
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AHHAHAHAHAHH - Maybe you meant SKIRTS OFF you "hardened" criminal.



You oral DFA? WHat? Are we still talking about a game here?



AHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAa ***** WIPES TEAR*****

Listen chump, being chained to your crib while your Dad beats you on the head with a rattle, doesn't equal to PRISON TIME. THat was the lamest dumbest thing you could have said. Shootfighting skills? There is no skill in shooting.

Case and point. Any person can point a gun and kill even a 5 year old kid, if you don't believe me look it up on the 'net. In any case, I really think you should stop sniffing paint before you post. I'm about as scared of you as I am of a discarded napkin. I do not fear people who tug on their nipples and start shouting "I WAS IN PRISON" on a JEDI KNIGHT II FORUM.. HAHHAHAHAHAHAH ... AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHA...

I could be anybody across this screen, you got it chump? Please think before you retard (read: speak).




Five years in prison and the best you can come up with is "You are from Hoth" and "Wimpy-auther-ass"? It's author, junior.



Yes, it makes light NOT USELESS, heavy NOT THE ONLY STANCE TO USE, and medium somewhere in between. Why release stances, in your eyes they should have just made JK2 like JK1 one stance, 1 dimensional, mindless button mashing, just like you and your WARDEN like it.
Time and place? Or are you all talk?
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Old 05-07-2002, 02:11 PM   #197
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Well... I played it for an hour, and I gotta say that I don't like the things they did to saber combat in this patch...

Sure, DFA has been tweaked, but due to the fact that everyone now fights into one concentrated group (due to the increased blocking percentage) we see people backing ot of that group, performing the dfa in there, getting 2 kills, over and over AND OVER AND OVER again...

What I think that killed saber combat was the hugely increased blocking percentage. You can go to someone, bash on him for an hour while he's standing still, and hit him once, if you're lucky...

While this might be good for duels, for FFA this patch sucks balls, since there's just too much going on for looking for that one opening and hitting someone, in a duel this is fine tho.

What I'd rather see is duels using the new saber "style", and ffa games using the old one, with a few tweaks (like the new DFA for example, it's a lot better post-patch)

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Old 05-07-2002, 02:20 PM   #198
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Time and place? Or are you all talk?
DVLOS?? Get your bedwetting ass back here and just name time and place... You *#¤#%... Please live in Sweden......
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Old 05-07-2002, 02:27 PM   #199
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Cerebral calm down, he isnt worth it, if hes making fun of someones english then he has no come-backs (thats obvious) and since he is, hes either 10 years old, or has the IQ of a door.

just shake it off.
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Old 05-07-2002, 02:32 PM   #200
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Time and place? Or are you all talk?

Glem ham makker, han er ikke det værd!!

Respekt til min svenske broder, håber at møde dig på en sever en dag :-)


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