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Old 05-07-2002, 02:34 PM   #201
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This was labelled as a patch thread. Did I miss something?

Jeez, folks get uptight on message boards.


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Old 05-07-2002, 02:34 PM   #202
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HP's official Patch review

I just finnished getting kicked out of my first game using the new patch (why I'm never allowed to leave a game on my own accord I have no idea).

anyhoo, I have noticed several problems with the new patch. Firstly, there are the changes to lightsaber combat. The biggest change was the "tone-downs" they made the "exploited moves". By "exploited moves" they mean "good moves", and by "tone-downs" they mean "make useless."

The DFA user can no longer spin his mouse around while doing the move to kill everyone alive in the level. ANd it is true that in the game I played people have quit using this move quite as much. People still however don't like it when a user binds a key to "ha ha ha, I killed you with DFA. FEEL MY WRATH!" despite the increased difficulty of this move.

The removal of some of these "exploited"(good) moves has resulted in people using the next best moves (new exploited moves). The one I am reffering to is the backstab. People are now whining about this move as much as or more than DFA. This surely means it will be "toned down"(made useless) in an upcoming patch. It seems that the lightsaber will soon be less usefull as a weapon than a thighmaster.

The sudden increase in whining created by the patch has also led to a new "exploited move"(good move). Namely, killing somone while they're typing. The game makers, for whatever reason have put a word bubble over your head when you type. I have taken the liberty of submitting a patch to the file department at jediknightii.net which changes this bubble from its regular icon, to text saying "please kill me". This, I'm sure, is what it was originally intended to say. No longer do you have to run somewhere safe, or wait until you are dead to type a message, now, in the heat of combat you can just start typing and if you die, you can tell on me to the moderator and have me kicked out. Yeah, good feature. Real nice.

All in all, I give this new patch a total score of -4stars (out of a possible -5). The extra -1 will be reserved for the next patch, which while dealing with the concerns of small children who play will undoubtedly spoil the game for everyone else.


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Old 05-07-2002, 02:35 PM   #203
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Well i aint happy what so ever, they have tried to focus on what i can only describe as "Count Dooku's Style" the medium is like sword fencing and not the moderm jedi fighting style like it is supposed too be, they have lamed the Meduim way more than the Heavy and for god sake, removing the spin all together? what the hell is that for? thats what defines the Jedi, Read any book that gets into the saber styles and thats what makes a Jedi Stand out, his twisting and turning, and dodging and so on
u could have at least left the spin in, just maybe not 3 spins in a row, i dont care what others say, but Medium was way over the top nerfed and i wasnt impressed, and my arse pulling the DFA is harder, thats why the few server that have 1.3 on, all u see is still the 4 or 5 instant deaths where the person just jumps around , yeah u cant move, but so what, u can still kick when ran into
Lite well i dont mind seems ok-ish wasnt a fan of that one, heavy, well what else u do too that then? in fact u add another move LOL
nice job is all i can too that

Force Heal? u nerf it so it takes half are force? why so badly? why not just half of that instead?
i dont mind too much about that, as u have countered that with the Force absorb which is good i suppose

Drain i not so sure about, never used it, wasnt impressed where drain wiped out absorb, even tho it is called "absorb" that it didnt!
and if it did, not very oftern!

Maps wise!

why the hell add 4 Duels only and no FFA? or CTF? whats the point in that, we have lame maps like Raven we have too use yet u give us only Duel maps

hummm

over all i aint impressed, if u sort the medium swing properly and more even abits, then maybe u will have alot more fans and supporters!

sorry to say, patch sux's over all, and i think alot off peeps wont admit it, but its over all true!

thanxs for reading i am sure i will be flamed
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Old 05-07-2002, 02:37 PM   #204
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Cerebral calm down, he isnt worth it, if hes making fun of someones english then he has no come-backs (thats obvious) and since he is, hes either 10 years old, or has the IQ of a door.

just shake it off.
I seldome get angry, but the bastard disst my farther that died 3 weeks ago,, Ill give anything to Fu**ck him up,, Its only a game but people need to be careful who thay trash,, Im gonna find him whare ever he is,, easy,, he probably uses his AKA on other sites,, One of them maby has linx to his mail or ICQ or MSN,, then its easy to trase his IP,, one of the things i did time 4,, illigal tracing "ACKS"

But I understand your point Just hope he is over 18 so I can f*uck him up WHEN I find him,, Jesus, I never heard of someone going bonkers like this dude because of a patch diss,, And if you talk the talk,, you have to be able to back it up,, no?
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Old 05-07-2002, 02:46 PM   #205
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Well i aint happy what so ever, they have tried to focus on what i can only describe as "Count Dooku's Style" the medium is like sword fencing and not the moderm jedi fighting style like it is supposed too be, they have lamed the Meduim way more than the Heavy and for god sake, removing the spin all together? what the hell is that for? thats what defines the Jedi, Read any book that gets into the saber styles and thats what makes a Jedi Stand out, his twisting and turning, and dodging and so on
u could have at least left the spin in, just maybe not 3 spins in a row, i dont care what others say, but Medium was way over the top nerfed and i wasnt impressed, and my arse pulling the DFA is harder, thats why the few server that have 1.3 on, all u see is still the 4 or 5 instant deaths where the person just jumps around , yeah u cant move, but so what, u can still kick when ran into
Lite well i dont mind seems ok-ish wasnt a fan of that one, heavy, well what else u do too that then? in fact u add another move LOL
nice job is all i can too that

Force Heal? u nerf it so it takes half are force? why so badly? why not just half of that instead?
i dont mind too much about that, as u have countered that with the Force absorb which is good i suppose

Drain i not so sure about, never used it, wasnt impressed where drain wiped out absorb, even tho it is called "absorb" that it didnt!
and if it did, not very oftern!

Maps wise!

why the hell add 4 Duels only and no FFA? or CTF? whats the point in that, we have lame maps like Raven we have too use yet u give us only Duel maps

hummm

over all i aint impressed, if u sort the medium swing properly and more even abits, then maybe u will have alot more fans and supporters!

sorry to say, patch sux's over all, and i think alot off peeps wont admit it, but its over all true!

thanxs for reading i am sure i will be flamed
Im with you,, I dont like it eather
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Old 05-07-2002, 03:02 PM   #206
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I wasn't going to post again because frankly... you people are too stupid to probably even understand what I am about to say.

Obviously Max (or something to that effect) hasn't played the patch because medium spinning is still in the game! try strafing to one side while swinging and then strafe/backwards after that.

Medium is differnt, but far more controllable then it used to be and I always know what move I will be doing which makes timing even more important.

As for the Swedish people trying to get others to have a shoot-out with them? What the bloody hell are you people getting so upset about! its a patch. Enough with the name calling (hehe I did it up at the top of my post) and defenently enough threatening to kill other people.

And if you arn't going to give up, i'll take your challenge, come meet me in Florida and we'll see who wins.


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Old 05-07-2002, 03:05 PM   #207
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After playing just a bit more I'd have to say that LIGHTING is being spammed more than ever, because of the "ineffectiveness" of sabers. Yes, you can turn on absorb, but that won't do much for the dark siders (I'm a light sider btw)...

Overall I'm finding this patch less and less appealing
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Old 05-07-2002, 03:10 PM   #208
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try playing it your self m8 properly
the spin aint even a spin, it is a back spin, not a forward spin, there are TOTAL different moves, Back spin dont even cause that much damage, i sat there on my 2 systems for a laugh and guess what, spin after spin i hit nothing much

call me crap? get on the 1.2 and i will kick are ass, Force or no Force, Weapons or no Weapons... i know the medium back to front, and with this patch they have totaly spoiled it

god i cant wait for SW-Galaxies then i think i am gone from JK2, if they dont hurry to sort it, they will ethier loss more players too that , or they will loss out too UT2k Unreal2 SOF2 and all those others too come


dont get me wrong i am the biggest i would hope SW fans around i collect books, toys, vids, posters, i love it, but when they fook somin up that they make out in books so much what can be said, A jedi FEELS THE FORCE, AND USES THE FORCE, that means flowing with spin attacks, if i want sword fencing i will wait till the realease
"Jedi Knight 3 : Dooku's Fencing Duels"

untill they do, give back the Medium Jedi Spin please!
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Old 05-07-2002, 03:15 PM   #209
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Then why have I been owning with medium in the matches that I played with the patch so far?
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Old 05-07-2002, 03:19 PM   #210
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Re: HP's official Patch review

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All in all, I give this new patch a total score of -4stars (out of a possible -5). The extra -1 will be reserved for the next patch, which while dealing with the concerns of small children who play will undoubtedly spoil the game for everyone else.
Way to be a hypocrit, team. You can't whine about people whining without sounding like a total ass.

BOO ****ING HOO.
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Old 05-07-2002, 03:21 PM   #211
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It's not a whine, its a critique. I think you'll find it's more clever than you've given it credit for.

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Old 05-07-2002, 03:24 PM   #212
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Patch is Dissapointing.

First i like to say, that jk2 got me away from cs and i love jk2 still.... but this new patch is horrid.
Well i was on a server the other day, and this newbie kept Lightning me, so when that happens i usually use heal and then just kick his ass, but i couldnt. I couldnt because the stupid patch left lightning the same, but made heal less useful. It takes more force points to heal, and takes longer. I dont mind that red stance move being messed with, but this taking away power from heal crap, just doesnt cut it. GG Whoever added that, u just made me quit jk2!


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Old 05-07-2002, 03:25 PM   #213
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THX INFO SIREUBERNESS



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Old 05-07-2002, 03:26 PM   #214
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It's not a whine, its a critique. I think you'll find it's more clever than you've given it credit for.

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Chhrnphhh... snort... grrrglll... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Oh man... don't pat yourself on the back too much.
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Old 05-07-2002, 03:30 PM   #215
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Then... HOW ABOUT... you use absorb? Or you jump away? or you pull him or you push him or you hit him or you shoot him or use protect or just plain run away like a little wimp. With the improved absorb it should be easy to take advantage of lightning spammers. Too little heal? GO FOR HEALTH PACKS TOO THEN. And carry a bacta with you whenever you can! Honestly, someone with just one tactic and you can't outsmart him?
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Old 05-07-2002, 03:36 PM   #216
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OK, i've not read the entire thread, so forgive me if this has already been said. I've seen almost nothing but whining here.
I have 1 thing to say

You try making a game, and then patching it, to try and appease the millions of people who play it, and see if you can do a better job. I can almost Garauntee that half or more of these damned whiners have NO IDEA how hard it its to make a game, or even patch it. They have NO IDEA how hard it is to try and balance out everything in the game. There will ALWAYS be people who like the changes, and people who don't like them. Unless all of you people complaining have actually MADE A GAME THATS PERFECT, then you have almost no grounds for complaining other than you paid money for the damn thing.

If you think you can do better, MAKE YOUR OWN PATCH!

I don't care wether Raven improved or messed up the game, as long as they show thier TRYING to make it better. You should be thankful that thier even still working on the game, unlike some companies that just lay back and go on vacation for a year.

So, if you have nothing better to do than whine how the game is now ruined, uninstall it, put it up on the shelf, and curse how you wasted you 50$. Or, you can go get a job at Raven, and make your own fix for the game, since , ofcourse, your Opinion is always whats right.


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Old 05-07-2002, 03:38 PM   #217
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why change medium? it wasn't whored, it wasn't overpowered, it wasn't cheap. WHY CHANGE IT? i spend the last month mastering it, now its just swing left, swing right. no spinning. spinning was sooo fun and easily countered. WHY REMOVE IT? ok, it's not removed, but it's harder to do, and you can't forward spin. not to mention EVERYTHING gets blocked. seriously, i'm the last person on earth to bitch and moan, but this is unacceptable and unwarranted. nerfing a stance that was only good in the hands of an expert? pffft
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Old 05-07-2002, 03:44 PM   #218
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Actually that's not true, you can still spin with Medium easily just not as frequently. Why don't you all just actually "try" the patch for a week and see how it goes? I'm sure that everyone will get used to it, and you say that blocking occurs too much? Think about Obi Wan & Qui Gon VS Darth Maul or Obi Wan vs Darth Vader, all the saber fights included amazing blocking skills and really took their time - that's how jedi are meant to fight.

You don't like the new Medium? Well you can keep your opinion but I recommend that you give it a try untill you damn something to hell.

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Old 05-07-2002, 03:48 PM   #219
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DVLOS?? Get your bedwetting ass back here and just name time and place... You *##%... Please live in Sweden......
First of all.

1) I don't give two ****s about a typo, or mis-spelling, but when the same word is constantly, and repeatedly mispelled, it makes it rather hard to understand. I hate re-reading crap that's idiotic to begin with, make an effort, huh? It's not that hard too.

2) You probably know - I am from the United States. Orlando, Florida... Altamonte Springs to be exact. I don't have any need to fly to Sweden, that's an expensive trip just to laugh at your childish antics.

Every clown that I flame back, if I mention a father, or a mother, suddenly they're dead. You where threatening to "shootfight" me over a patch you fool. Now you want to say its over your ghostly father that beat you over the head with a rattle?

I have a job fool. I can't sit around hitting refresh all damn day. You want to talk smack? You have no idea who you're talking to fool. I'll let you find out, I'm not into bragging, that's definately the Buster thing to do. Come over to the US anytime you want, make a post, send an E-mail, I don't care, if you want a piece of me, you're welcome to try and take it.

Please bring your Dad's or a picture of his casket so that I can start feeling sorry for you. While your at it, take a picture of yourself crying over your keyboard at the fact they released a patch. That will go well with the picture I take of you crying with your mouth at the end of my size 12's.

You're trying to take things to the NEXT NEXT level, and at the same time, its all talk... You expect me to believe you were in prison for five years, you pop bites the bullet 3 weeks ago, and the best thing you got to do with your life is "Hey the patch sucks, you wimpy auther ass! Waa!" Come on man. That's ridiculous.

First its:

Dvlos: Stop complaining about the patch, the biggest dent is into heavy stance abusers.

Cerebral (nice non-nerd name): Dear Mr. Foolish, you are dumb you are stupid the patch is stupid.

Dvlos: Whatever you 2nd grade nobody.

Cerebral: WHAT I WAS IN JAIL FOR 5 YEARS!! I WILL KILL YOU!
(whatever idiot, if you really were in any kind of prison-not a day care- I mean a prison you wouldn't talk like this. You wouldn't even be playing video games you'd be trying to score some bootay)

Dvlos:AHAHH!!! Whatever! Your dad hit you with a rattle!

Cerebral: WHAT MY DAD SUDDENLY DIED!!

Dvlos: AHAHAH!!

Cerebral: WHAT EVER NAME THE TIME AND PLACE AS LONG AS ITS MY FAR AWAY AND FROM MY SAFE AND SMALL COUNTRY OF SWEDEN...

Dvlos: AHAHAHAH!!!!

Read back you started this flame buck-o. What's your point? I keep trying to go back to the patch and you keep making it personal, which is it? If its personal I'll give you my e-mail or meet on a flame forum and go at it that way.. this is a game site.. ok? I don't really think your even half serious about this so I suggest you drop it.. if you insist on it, let's go somewhere else.
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Old 05-07-2002, 03:56 PM   #220
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NOBODY SHOULD BE WHINING OR COMPLAINING IN THIS THREAD AND CERTAINLY NO FLAMES
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Old 05-07-2002, 03:59 PM   #221
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its crazy how even morons can use computers these days.

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Old 05-07-2002, 04:00 PM   #222
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Man, I just want to talk about JK2... home boy over here is losing sleep over this...

Cerebral I'll be the bigger man, take it how you want (OMG HE's a wimp ahah).. But I'll drop it okay? Sorry about your recent loss.

If you pursue me its all on you...

My offer still stands to play JK2 against you or anyone from this forum, not because I hate you or some testosterone kick I just enjoy playing with fans of SW and of this game like I am.

I don't have time for this.

Besides, RAVEN has posted and everything they have said makes sense. And while I may have sorta' liked certain aspects of the game pre-patch I FEEL (maybe some of you don't or even encountered it) that post-patch is for the best. And I am SURE.. this won't be the last patch for JK2.
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Old 05-07-2002, 04:01 PM   #223
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Perhaps I'm wrong as sarcasm does not go over well on the net, but I"m pretty sure happy is beig sarcastic and in fact likes the new changes.
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Old 05-07-2002, 04:05 PM   #224
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first off, thank you dvlos for making a neat little play on flaming. very appropriate. [/sarcasm]

anyway, yes you can still spin whenever you want, you just have no control like you did before. the only hope of killing someone with a spin now is if they think it looks pretty and decide to walk in to it. it completely suck ass. and what if i do give it a week? i'll most likely say the same thing, and you'll say ``go play a new game padawan''. well i like this game. at least i did. i've been playing this patch most of the day since i've been home today, and it is straight up ass. why make ``improvements'' that no one wanted or asked for? why ``fix'' things that aren't broken?

all i wanted from this lousy patch was to fix the step on saber dfa death...

and don't you suck ups hit me with that violin **** !
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Old 05-07-2002, 04:06 PM   #225
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His review was the only one that pointed out the bubble Icon. Although I disagree with it being a bad thing. I guess it just depends on who you play with.


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Old 05-07-2002, 04:07 PM   #226
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THEN USE THE OTHER MOVES FOR MEDIUM OR PRACTICE WITH THE NEW SPINS.
IF YOU WANT MORE SPINS USE LIGHT.
THERE PROBLEM SOLVED!
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Old 05-07-2002, 04:08 PM   #227
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Old 05-07-2002, 04:11 PM   #228
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lol



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Old 05-07-2002, 04:17 PM   #229
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listen here mr. caps lock. i don't ****ing just spin, ok? i spin when it's appropriate. now, spinning is completely useless. anyone, that isn't a padawan, would ever be dumb enough to not get out of there because they see the spin coming a mile away. it takes about 5 hours to accomplish a spin now. a far cry from the tactical spin of old. the medium is spin is only slightly faster than the strong spin. WTF

and thank you for the violin. i laughed.
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Old 05-07-2002, 04:17 PM   #230
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In all seriousness Flippo, I do agree. If Raven just tweakd DFA so as you couldn't turn I would have been a very content old man


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Old 05-07-2002, 04:22 PM   #231
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Although I laughed at this thread.

The DFA is a good move because=it kills in one shot, and although there are counters it sometimes kills ridiculously. I think you should be able to turn to land it in, lag, but I agree that unless you hit someone who's defenseless and only in the swinging part (not the saber buried in the ground or getting hit int he toe) should constitute a kill. I didn't make the patch but it does:

Make lightstance not suck.

Increase saber battles.

Make every saber battle not necessarily heavy vs heavy... or should I say DFA vs DFA.. and if someone kills me with a DFA ... I WILL BE LIKE DAMN!! That's like getting killed with a light slash or a light lunge for that upclose and personal "I got the Skillz" statement.
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Old 05-07-2002, 05:01 PM   #232
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Well, I might as well add my 2 cents in even though I don't participate to ofen around here. ( I DO however enjoy reading your posts though)

Anyway, here is my background: I have been playing since the 16th and it didn't take me very long to find that I prefer being a pure duelist (NF). I became well rounded learning all the stances with the yellow being my dominant strength. If it means anything I am currently ranked 155 out of 91,016 players on "csports.net" but I don't put a lot of weight in thier rankng system.

I played last night for about 2 hours and at first, I felt very awkward (like I did when I first started playing). In light of the changes (for the type of game I play) re-learning the VERY different play mechanics will be worth it.

Some of the complaints are a bit strange to me. The change to the kick (double tap) is easily executed even in the heat of combat. Maybe the ppl having a problem should try binding it to a a more comfortable key, that might help.
Saber throw threw me for a loop at first but it wasn't long before I felt comfortable with it part of a NF duel. It does make things interesting and I have to admit, after watching some people use it effectively (read: not spam, played well with it) I thought it was a good choice.
Even though I am biased as far as force use goes, the changes seem to have toned them down to the point where they "compliment" the saber and not overpower it (as far as what you would use as a main weapon)
The DFA change was 100% right where it needs to be IMO. I like that it can still be used but it had better be used when you are sure that you are going to connect with it. I dont find it hard to pull off, and can still surprise someone (try a few medium saber slashes, at the last slash switch to heavy and jump backwards tapping your attack and jump at the same time and then as soon as you land, hold forward, attack and jump at the same time. Presto! but again, use with caution!)
Well, gotta go...got a new saber to learn.
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Old 05-07-2002, 06:08 PM   #233
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Sigh... the thread that I have started to offer advice on gameplay has remained completely untouched... What more evidence do I ned to prove that you people love to hate.
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Old 05-07-2002, 06:11 PM   #234
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The patch ruined ff guns and ctf. Yay.


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Old 05-07-2002, 06:25 PM   #235
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The patch ruined ff guns and ctf. Yay.
Could you also explain why?
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Old 05-07-2002, 07:37 PM   #236
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Hey Raven,

Excellent work!

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Old 05-07-2002, 08:38 PM   #237
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For those that would like to be able to play both versions of the game:

I have created a few files that will help you switch between both versions of the game rather easily.

Read about it here,...
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthrea...threadid=51403


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Old 05-07-2002, 09:14 PM   #238
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They have destroyed one of the most amazing games I had ever played with this new 'patch.' It is hardly a patch, it is a new game: a game that I would never have invested time into.

Six of us have worked to assess the damage--an even spread of heavy and medium users. I will post our findings soon before signing off.

Suffice it to say that the changes, ultimately, have taken a game that required skill, strategy, and timing and metamorphosed it into a spongy spammy, slap fight. I can strafe up to skilled heavy users and slash medium combos in their face with impunity: players that in the recent past I had to be at the top of my game to compete with. But I digress... the sad truth will become apparent as the new saber dynamic is tested by the community.

Raven has a game that is topping the charts and word of mouth has been very positive. The new patch should have included bug fixes and corrected some oversights in the multiplayer gameplay (e.g. the proliferation of 'DFA' spamming, buggy hitbox code, etc).

It should not have altered so completely the saber and game mechanics.

This 'patch' is nothing of the sort; it is total overhaul and has produced a mitigated multiplayer experience.
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Old 05-07-2002, 09:19 PM   #239
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I have created a few files that will help you switch between both versions of the game rather easily. -- Usurper
Thank you for posting a method for switching between versions.
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Old 05-07-2002, 09:21 PM   #240
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Heh, I have been proven correct in this thread.****in whiners

My post from about a week ago................
Ok, here's the deal. It doe'snt matter how much they tweak or add with the patch. Who knows, Raven could end up fixing 90% of all the things we have been griping about the past month. -One fact remains, there will still be all the kiddie whiners and flamers here at the JK2 forum. The second the patch is released, it will be disected bu alot of idiots here and nitpicked at in whining threads.Don't get me wrong, there's quite a few of you here that are very cool abd act yur age. But also, I notice way too much kiddie flaming,bickering,whining. Way too many smart-ass children here without any supervision from thier mommy and/or daddy! -Anyway, my point being.........no matter what Raven fixes/adds w/ the patch, peeps will just complain about it with a new list of gripes after it's released! -All these lamers will nitpick at the patch and there will be 50 instant whining/griping threads the 1st damn day. Hell, only one tidbit of official info regarding the tweaking of the heavy-stance and there are already numerous whining/flaming going on on how thats unfair First mostly everyone here gripes and b!tches about heavy-stance being too much and now that we have official word that it may be fixed w/ the patch and now you peeps are b!tching about that!! -Get a life you freakin' kiddies morons!
--If Raven dev ended up curing all the MP issues w/ JK2 with the patch release there would still be 30-40 threads with nothing but whining and b!tching about how the patch sucks. Grow up people and for all the kiddies here.......go find yourselves a gaming junior-forum! ----There's my rant! -I'm so disgusted with how most of the members act here at the JK2 forum. It's a real embarressment to the Veteren JK1 community and to the 'sensible' members of the JK2 community as well. Just plain sad all the flaming and bickering that goes on here.
--Anyway, ...just my .02. -I'm gone, ~S!TH


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