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Old 05-27-2002, 04:09 AM   #1
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Post My faith has been restored (somewhat)...

I just spent 3 hours playing on my server and had the best group of ppl playing!. Spamming, whoring and general lameness was extremely rare and when some lamer did join, the players promptly kicked them!..it was great!...(saved me the trouble). This was on a full force server too!. Hardly anyone used force..there was no pull/backstab/sweep spamming, no lightining spam..it was just awesome.

I only had to boot one person the entire time...overall about 4 ppl got the boot.

Not only was everyone a good sport, but there were some giving instruction to new players and others as well. What a beautiful sight.

Even though new players came and went...the vast majority were all of like mind and more interested in fighting well than winning. Ah...the good old days.

If any of you read this and were playing the server at the time (my avatar is Muerte) Thanks a bunch for creating one of the more memorable game experiences in recent memory! You are all welcome to come back anytime!

My faith in this game (and the existence of decent players) has been elevated.
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Old 05-27-2002, 04:15 AM   #2
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Nice dictatorship regime.....


There are only two constants in this world.
1. I kill you.
2. You cry for a lightsabre damage nerf.
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Old 05-27-2002, 04:21 AM   #3
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Um...Ok.

In my opinion this is the way the game should be played...I guess you had to be there.

You see...when you log on to my server it states:

Saber Off = Peace, Play FAIR, No Spam

So if someone joined and didn't want to follow those rules they should have left, in fact one did leave on his own.

I'm sorry you see it that way Kal.
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Old 05-27-2002, 04:34 AM   #4
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Dictatorship is getting rid of lame people who ruin the fun of others?

What is your server's name, I need a good server to play in (seems like these days I only play privately with clans/friends)
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Old 05-27-2002, 04:39 AM   #5
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Hmmm...dictatorship...if it works...
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Old 05-27-2002, 03:39 PM   #6
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Thumbs up Fair play man

Glad to see some people are finding servers that aint full of lamers and scripters!

Nice work fella
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Old 05-27-2002, 03:47 PM   #7
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thats not Dictatorship.. the dude can enforce whatever rules he want on he's own server..



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Old 05-27-2002, 04:06 PM   #8
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well since i just bought this game, sounds like a good server to play on, once i beat the game that is, lets see i bought it yesterday, and im already at the fyyar boss guy with the shields, so i should be done by tomarrow or wednesday, im eager to see how this plays online
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Old 05-27-2002, 04:14 PM   #9
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well since i just bought this game, sounds like a good server to play on, once i beat the game that is, lets see i bought it yesterday, and im already at the fyyar boss guy with the shields, so i should be done by tomarrow or wednesday, im eager to see how this plays online

well.. if your on the right server.. this game kicks A.. Butt!! try looking for saber only, no force servers at first.. this will help your saber skill's allot as MP plays somewhat different from SP..

If you do get on a server where you keep getting backstapped/gripped and thrown to your death etc.. dont loose your faith.. just look for another server..

looking 4ward to see you online

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Old 05-27-2002, 04:28 PM   #10
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this definitly sounds like a server i would like, all these losers are making me play the game less and less.


ip? you can send it to me through private message if you dont want to announce it
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:21 PM   #11
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googly, you are a terrible person.

did people actually complain about "spam" of lightning? did i miss this trend in bitchiness?

seriously, go play a nf game. quit being a fascist prick

people like you ruined the game. self-righteous know-nothing, know-it-alls.

congrats on getting raven to fix what wasnt broken, and break what was otherwise not a problem
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:30 PM   #12
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I agree with nathan, but without all those insults and vulgarity.
1.03 on the most part fixed things that did not need to be fixed. I think eve DFA was cut down too much (oh I don't use it)...Moves that people cannot handle at an early stage should not be nerfed to the point of uselessness....it should be brought to a point where its just as useful as anormal swing.
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:36 PM   #13
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the insults and vulgarity are justified
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:36 PM   #14
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Um...Ok.

In my opinion this is the way the game should be played...I guess you had to be there.

You see...when you log on to my server it states:

Saber Off = Peace, Play FAIR, No Spam

So if someone joined and didn't want to follow those rules they should have left, in fact one did leave on his own.

I'm sorry you see it that way Kal.
I won't try to explain. You pretty much say it all. Sure you are allowed to do it, but is it right or not, heh well, it's your call since you're hosting...

Especially because if you say like I have today in numerous games "nfnknbnt" or any of the chosen, everyone gladly goes by them. The ones that don't, well I am always sorry, but I always pull/backstab them. I don't like it, but that's how they choose to play. I hope you get what I'm aiming at here.


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1. I kill you.
2. You cry for a lightsabre damage nerf.
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:39 PM   #15
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googly, you are a terrible person.

did people actually complain about "spam" of lightning? did i miss this trend in bitchiness?

seriously, go play a nf game. quit being a fascist prick

people like you ruined the game. self-righteous know-nothing, know-it-alls.

congrats on getting raven to fix what wasnt broken, and break what was otherwise not a problem
I hate spammers, they're boring and annoying--but kicking people just because you don't like their style of play is pretty uncool It's your server, you do what you want--obviously; I'm just saying I have a hard time respecting that choice.


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Old 05-27-2002, 06:41 PM   #16
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I have a great cure for the kick.....hehehehe.....Hahahahah......MOHAHAHAHAHah ahahahaha......AAAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAA HAAAAAA


am I scaring you yet? No? Thought so.....


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2. You cry for a lightsabre damage nerf.
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:41 PM   #17
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did people actually complain about lightning? did i miss that?
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:43 PM   #18
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Yeah apparently it's hard to turn on absorb, or just do a simple push on the target frying your azz.....


There are only two constants in this world.
1. I kill you.
2. You cry for a lightsabre damage nerf.
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:46 PM   #19
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im sure if they bowed, it would have been alright
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:50 PM   #20
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lol

it's nice to see googly try to create some fictional world in which everyone is nice to eachother and no one spams and blah blah blah.

Cant' wait for them to come out to the real world of ladders and competition when they get eaten alive.
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:55 PM   #21
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True.....but then you have a choice.....and I chose the non-ladder one...I just play for fun, and I SUCK AT IT (that's the best part of this game, I finally suck at something so bad), so basically I don't want competitions, because from earlier experiences I know what they are like, and what they can turn into. No more of that for me anymore, thank you


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2. You cry for a lightsabre damage nerf.
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Old 05-27-2002, 06:56 PM   #22
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im sure if they bowed, it would have been alright
Oh absolutely. Because even if you do nothing but run away and wave your sabre aimlessly around in Light Stance the entire game, as long as you squat like a constipated warthog and nod your head up and down like a buffoon beforehand, it makes it all alright.

Frankly, I agree with Nathan's earlier statements... it was self-righteous know-nothing fools who ruined the game for everyone else by utterly confounding FFA and CTF modes, at least they were allowed to through the "wisdom" of Raven...

But that's the world these days. Workers are less and less skilled at their jobs, and employers like it that way. Casinos are using mechanical constant shuffling devices so that people with enough brains to count cards in their head can no longer do so...

People with ANY sort of skill at all are frowned upon these days. And it's the same in games. CS, Tribes 2, JO... and many more, have been ruined because game developers want to keep the vocal newbies happy, because serious and skilled players are too rare a commodity to bother with. Welcome to the future, I hope you all enjoy your stay.


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Old 05-27-2002, 07:03 PM   #23
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*enjoys his stay*


There are only two constants in this world.
1. I kill you.
2. You cry for a lightsabre damage nerf.
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Old 05-27-2002, 07:28 PM   #24
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Well I'm glad someone's enjoying it.


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Old 05-27-2002, 07:38 PM   #25
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But that's the world these days. Workers are less and less skilled at their jobs, and employers like it that way. Casinos are using mechanical constant shuffling devices so that people with enough brains to count cards in their head can no longer do so...
Why would Casino's try to reward skill? They want to make money, not contribute to the great scheme of things...

Life is designed to keep you where you are, and as time goes on, it gets more skilled at keeping us where we 'belong' You can struggle, or accept it depending on your POV

*goes back to struggling*


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Old 05-27-2002, 07:39 PM   #26
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yahoo for the status quo
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Old 05-27-2002, 07:54 PM   #27
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Why would Casino's try to reward skill? They want to make money, not contribute to the great scheme of things...
EXACTLY. Now, another question: Why would Raven/LEC try to reward skill? They want to make money, not contribute to the great scheme of things...


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Old 05-27-2002, 07:57 PM   #28
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EXACTLY. Now, another question: Why would Raven/LEC try to reward skill? They want to make money, not contribute to the great scheme of things...
Glad to see we understand each other. The trouble is that they haven't managed to beat me yet. I can still beat unkilled players It's just depressing to do it

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yahoo for the status quo
No kidding, but life can't hasn't beat me either--I'll do things my way or get horribly broken and schitzophrenic trying...


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Old 05-27-2002, 08:00 PM   #29
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Depressing is right. I have to force myself to play FFA or CTF now... all the joy has been sucked out of it like jelly sucked out of a trifle by a huge vacuum cleaner.


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Old 05-27-2002, 08:01 PM   #30
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so... do you want to raid the armory and storm the walls at raven?

bottom line: raven sold out
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Old 05-27-2002, 08:38 PM   #31
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*whispers* Come to the NF dueling servers, that's where the skilled players are hiding...

*looks around the room, prepares his Mind Trick for the weak willed*

NF Dueling is Lame, pull/backstab owns

'NF Dueling is Lame, pull/backstab owns'


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Old 05-27-2002, 08:48 PM   #32
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must fight instincts that say bgj nf sucks and requires no skill due to lag. must fight instinct to play ff oasis....

ugh, im trying but i just cant do your battle ground jedi ways. i like an in depth game
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Old 05-27-2002, 08:50 PM   #33
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Lag? As something exclusively attributed to NF? I don't think even the truly weak minded would buy that...

Ahhh, now that I understand. I guess simple pleasures only work for simple people like myself


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Old 05-27-2002, 08:58 PM   #34
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jk1 reference lost, or someone who truely disagrees?

i like a really in depth game requiring strategy and skill. not one or the other. ffa ff should be able to do it. i like guns. i dont want to resort to nf duels because i am all too reminded of bgj nf. although, the only time i will play duels is nf sabes.

but ff ffa is lost to me. thats what kept me coming back. guns vs sabers, all with powers

this game has lost its allure. i feel oh so violated
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Old 05-27-2002, 09:09 PM   #35
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Ah, JK1, I only really played SP, that was back in the days when I had a crappy internet connection and didn't see much of a point to MP version...

Anywho, I enjoy the simplicity of the strategies of NF Dueling, but I understand your POV--so I'll join in your raid on Raven...


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Old 05-27-2002, 09:57 PM   #36
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i feel oh so violated
This is not an overstatement. As a JK fan who played Jedi Knight, MotS, Dark Forces... and was really looking forward to JO, it's absolutely gutting to have to watch the demise of the game.

I feel like my entrails have been rent from my torso and wound chokingly tightly around my throat. I really put the time into JO, BEFORE it was released even. I played up on a combination of UT and JK for weeks... and it payed off. But now JO is a glorified game of pong. LAMENT.


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Old 05-27-2002, 10:55 PM   #37
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it's nice to see googly try to create some fictional world in which everyone is nice to eachother and no one spams and blah blah blah.

Cant' wait for them to come out to the real world of ladders and competition when they get eaten alive.
You mean the world where people buy the game for 50 bucks expecting to find a great game but instead find mindess skilless assclowns who can't use any move except backstab? We bought this game with our earned money, we don't deserve to have a ****ty time playing a game we spent money on. We shouldn't need to call it a "fantasy" world it should be the way we play.
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Old 05-28-2002, 12:13 AM   #38
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Sorry, but I have to join in with the people who hijacked your thread. You have a Jedi Master server and no one uses force? That sucks! If you don't want force to be used, take it away or lower the force level -- and/or disable the light/dark powers or something. I played one game on the Oasis v2 map with this guy who kept calling me a n00b because I kept pulling his gun and killing him with it -- hello, he's the one dying and I'm not, I'm simply using the tools available to me and he's failing to counter it or respond in kind.

I hardly ever play Dark Side, but if I did you can surely bet I would be hitting those Drain and Lightning hotkeys whenever the opportunity arose. This is a battle, so you must either kill me first with your own dark side powers or defend yourself with the light side and counterattack. That said, I mostly use Absorb and Heal and I hardly ever get killed by "lightning spam." In fact I love lightning spam, it means I can fill up my force meter. If you're dark side, just drain -- heal the damage already done and remove his capacity to use more lightning, not to mention the possibility of Grip or just using lightning yourself.

When this system of attack and counter-attack is actually used, it adds another level of tactics to the game, in addition to the actual saber and gun combat that will have to take place before someone actually dies.

Yes, I think some aspects of the force system right now are broken -- pull/backstab is just ridiculous, and virtually no one is going to pick Protection or Mind Trick over Heal and Absorb in a regular gameplay situation. But on the whole I don't see why so many people complain about using the Force in a Force-enabled server in a game called JEDI Outcast.


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Old 05-28-2002, 12:50 AM   #39
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There used to be a response here...my bad.

No further comment.

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There used to be a response here...my bad.

No further comment.
Well...I managed to skim it, and I was going to respond to it, but then I refreshed to see if anyone else had responded, and it dissapeared into editing.

I didn't read beyond point 5, so I'm sorry if I'm mentioning something that was addressed...

I just wanted to say that I only said I didn't like the idea that you were banning move spammers. Yes, it's boring, but so what? So you don't like their style of play and it continually beats you, I think it sucks to ban someone who's just playing the game.

If you were kicking people who were making hateful racial remarks, or something along those lines, I would understand--that's plain uncool. Anyway, that's all I thought was wrong...


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