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Old 06-03-2002, 11:08 AM   #41
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Originally posted by Nathan Wind
superman needs to quit being a prick. the community is saddend.
Hey what's wrong with Superman? Superman rules. Besides, if I was saddening people, then this is really some screwed deppresive hole.

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2. You cry for a lightsabre damage nerf.
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Old 06-03-2002, 11:13 AM   #42
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Originally posted by jarek
I'm really tired of people getting bashed because they have a negative opinion about the game. Grandmasterlee presented an arguement, rather than just saying "this sux0rz". There is a difference between that and bitching. If you fail to see it, ok whatever.

We've all paid good money for this game, if it isnt meeting our expectations we have the right to be angry. I cant speak for the rest of you, but I don't like throwing away $50.

For every moron that screams, "this sux0rz" theres another who screams back, "stfu quit bitching! die!". Idiots outnumber intelligent people in this game 10:1. If you disagree with someone thats cool, but telling them, "whiner! u suck!" only makes you look like an ass. It also doesnt add any weight to your opinion.

Yeah, theres probably 100 other threads written by people who dislike the patch, but theres also 100s of threads written by people who love the patch too. So what? Threads get buried over time. People dont like it when old threads are bumped. So what are people supposed to do? Not talk?
it is always good to see positive attitude....i agree with jerek, yet i will ignore both sides~~~~~~ damn why am i writting this..... i was supposed to ignore....ignore....
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Old 06-03-2002, 01:01 PM   #43
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I'm sure they will do something about all the problems, but for now I guess we'll just have to ride it out.
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Old 06-03-2002, 02:44 PM   #44
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Thank you for the response jarek.
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Old 06-03-2002, 03:06 PM   #45
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Re: Re: Why the game sucks.

Originally posted by Demolisher
I am not going to email him because there is no reason he can't read all these threads.
I'd bet there's a really good reason.

HE HAS A JOB AT A LARGE GAME DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, AND YOU DON'T. You're lucky he responded, assjack.

Jarek: Calling someone a <whatever> (the forum masks it) for saying that no one cares about your opinion of the game is just silly. Everyone has an opinion, and 9 times out of 10, no one really cares what other people think. At this point in time, I read reviews of games for pure entertainment, not because I value their opinion. The fact that you dislike the game doesn't give your opinion any more weight than mine. I think people on this forum are getting a little annoyed because new topics keep popping up, like this one, where someone says something thats been said 900,000 times. I think its clear by now that about half the people here like the patch, and half do not.

Community-Developer feedback is not a necessary thing with FPS games. You already gave them your money... guess what, you're ****ed. Welcome to real life, the place where you don't always get what you want, and nobody cares what you think.

Do us all a big favor though: next time you want to post your repetetive opinion, follow these important steps, especially if you don't want negative feedback on negative feelings.

1. Write what you'd post on a peice of paper, or use notepad.

2. Throw that peice of paper out, or delete the .txt file.

There, you've just accomplished the same thing, and annoyed less people. That makes you a winner. Here's a peice of candy.
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Old 06-03-2002, 03:54 PM   #46
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well, i have to say that this thread has cheered up my boring day at work anyway

since i already like the game (minus a few points, but like a lot of people have already said, no-one wants to hear what i have to moan about) then i just love watching people argue over it

And i have to say, i love this line:

Idiots outnumber intelligent people in this game 10:1 - Welcome to gaming, enjoy your stay
So true


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There is no fear: There is power
There is no death: There is immortality
There is no weakness: There is the Dark Side
I am the heart of Darkness
I know no fear
But rather i instill it in my enemies
I am the destroyer of worlds
I know the power of the Dark Side
I am the fire of hate
All the universe bows before me
I pledge myself to the darkness
For i have found true life
In the death of the light...

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Old 06-03-2002, 04:17 PM   #47
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When I get all steamed up, hear me shout
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Here's an example of what I can do
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Old 06-03-2002, 04:22 PM   #48
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I think that people do have a right to complain about what they don't like about games. After all, the forums would be very boring if everybody got along. However, that doesn't mean that people should just go flaming each other; when you disagree with somebody, feel free to write about it, but try and be mature and post your opinion, not a blatant attack on people.

Anyway, if you are satisfied with the product support that Raven/LA has offered so far, well, thats fine with me, but I'm not. I expect more. Of course, I rarely play mainstream games for the very reason that big companies don't value their customers as much as the smaller companies. JK2 is a decent game, but it could have been so much better. I'll probably play it a little more, but I can tell you one thing: I will probably not buy another game in the series, and I will avoid Raven's games in the future. They didn't do a bad job, but I'm not rich, so you won't see me spending my money on mediocre games that have potential. I want a good, complete game with support. You may not require that, and thats fine, just don't flame those of us who expect a bit more.

Actually I enjoy playing this game over a LAN where I know people and we all get along and agree on rules (no excessive backstabbing, duels have certain rules that everybody agrees on), however, once you get out on to the other servers, well, you're always going to have lots of immature people in the game, and it is oh so easy to lame in this game. Raven doesn't care, and it probably makes them money. They would lose a lot of 12 year olds if you couldn't spam one specific move, or one specific force power and win. I enjoy games that can be played competitively, and well, this game can't. Its a recreational game (CTF is probably a good competitive environment where you can't lame that much, but there aren't enough people with the game on my LAN to get these going), thats easy to learn, but skill plateaus too easily IMO.
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Old 06-03-2002, 04:47 PM   #49
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I guess you like having to reboot your computer all the time when playing a game. You must like being in the middle of a duel with another player, free for all, or in some important part of single player and then all of a sudden the game crashes or stops then having to wait for your computer to reboot. I feel bad when it looks like I've abruptly left a server; I don't want to seem rude or lame. Second, I have a real good computer and it's ridiculous that this game has to have problems with it.

You all have to understand that Raven screws gaming communities over and over again. They never keep their promises and always abandon the community. They screwed over the Hexen II community by leaving Hexenworld unfinished in beta and loaded with bugs. They kept adding more and more bugs into Heretic II instead of fixing them. I think Elite Force is the only game they got right. Raven's problem is that they only care about money. Hell, that's the problem with the world! Instead of doing something nice for gaming communities who bought their games, Raven just sits back and says "**** them, we got their money already, so lets go"
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Old 06-03-2002, 04:53 PM   #50
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Its just a shame people cant discuss things and be civil even tho they disagree. With my first post, I tried to do that. But now lamers have turned this thread into a war zone.

Sadly I sunk to their level on a few of my later posts. Unlike most people, I can admit when I'm wrong. (wrong about sinking to their level, not my opinions of the game).

I've realized that I cant discuss things with people who just want to instigate fights and/or people who think they are always right about everything. Some people use this forum to discuss the game, others use it to vent their frustrations with the problems, and then there are those who sit back and look for opportunities to attack people.
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Old 06-03-2002, 04:54 PM   #51
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Ok, so whats the piont of this? If everyone thinks Raven pays no attention to these forums, or any others, why are you talking about it, good or bad?
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Old 06-03-2002, 04:58 PM   #52
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Why take up some one elses battle JEARK. Have you noticed that master has left the forum and i think u should follow suit and join the minorty of people who hate this game. P.S are u a trekkie.

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Old 06-03-2002, 07:06 PM   #53
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people should complain all they want and not be called whiners. they should be flamed on how ignorant and moronic they are when they post their suggestions up instead.
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Old 06-03-2002, 07:14 PM   #54
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Okay kiddies grow up. Just because you have 'l33t' skills doesn't mean your in charge of the forum. Most people voice their opinion within two lines of starting. If you don't like the negative talk, then here's a magic trick.

Click the back button and it dissapears!

Just think: You wasted five minutes of your life typing a message that contributed nothing to the discussion, just to make someone feel bad.

PS: Xombie, did you play Tribes2? I think I remember you.
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Old 06-03-2002, 07:33 PM   #55
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I just spent quite a bit of my time reading all of the posts in this thread. It was actually kind of enjoyable. My question, however, is: what is this argument over? Is it about the so called whiners or about backstabbing? I'm just a little curious that's all. Thanks!
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Old 06-04-2002, 12:42 AM   #56
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It started with a guy saying why he thinks the game is going to die (Like Tribes 2, similarily enough) and all the StarWars geeks who consider themselves forum moderators came in and started crying.
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Old 06-04-2002, 02:17 AM   #57
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yup, and i think my post added A LOT to the argument..... you are all welcome for my contribution
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Old 06-04-2002, 03:07 AM   #58
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Tribes 2? Yes. Yes I did.
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