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Old 08-16-2002, 11:42 PM   #1
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WIP: Volrath's Lair

K I feel I must start a WIP thread for this map.

Why? This will be my last map for JK2 ever. I know I know... too many people have already left and yes I'm leaving too. UT2003 is just too much for me to pass up.

In the time that I have mapped for JK2, I haven't ever posted any wip threads really, save for one that died easily when i did rave house. So.... gonna make one here.

This map is called Volrath's Lair. I have just started working on two - three nights ago. The theme of the map is a RATS style CTF/FFA/Team FFA/Holocron FFA/Jedi Master map of my bedroom. Yes. You heard me. My bedroom.

Anyways, here are some nice in editor alpha screenies. Enjoy!

http://stormtroopersaga.jedioutcastm...ath/alpha5.jpg
http://stormtroopersaga.jedioutcastm...ath/alpha6.jpg
http://stormtroopersaga.jedioutcastm...ath/alpha7.jpg



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Old 08-17-2002, 12:18 AM   #2
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is it gonna be one of those huge room/tiny players maps?


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Old 08-17-2002, 12:22 AM   #3
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Old 08-17-2002, 01:44 AM   #4
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DARNIT!!! i started a rats map of my room too, your a bit farther than me case i dont work on it much. i guess well have to see which of ours is better, although im not gonnahave much time to work on it. yours is looking good but i think that your in desperate need of a new wallpaper for your room (or at least change it in your map). other than that make sure to add stuff like mouse holes. good lick with your map


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Old 08-17-2002, 02:11 AM   #5
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DARNIT!!! i started a rats map of my room too, your a bit farther than me case i dont work on it much. i guess well have to see which of ours is better, although im not gonnahave much time to work on it. yours is looking good but i think that your in desperate need of a new wallpaper for your room (or at least change it in your map). other than that make sure to add stuff like mouse holes. good lick with your map
Um... I haven't even gotten to texturing yet. That's later.

the ctf version is really gonna be neat. And i am planning on adding so many farking easter eggs to this map it's not funny... and I don't have any mouse holes in my room... so i may not add that.. I'm trying to keep to scale and keep accurate. The lights have been the hardest thing to build as of yet. The tv was pretty easy. But that's gotta be moved caddy corner in the corner where the closet doors are (i don't much use the other door in my closet.) so I'm freaked what's gonna happen when i rotate the whole thing when it's done. suffice to say i am not using free rotate. arbitrary rotation for me. anyone know of any i way i'll be able to to rotate that and not have it be deformed? i'm hoping arbitrary will stop it from being deformed to the point where it's useless.



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Old 08-17-2002, 03:01 AM   #6
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Sorry to see you go.. so you're going to start playing UT2003, mapping for it or both? I think your last map will be kick ass bro! Good luck!

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Old 08-17-2002, 06:09 AM   #7
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Nice TV. How many inches?
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Old 08-17-2002, 08:12 AM   #8
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I know how you feel

Once ive finished tragin galo part one and the mp mod im working on, i too will be jumping ship to ut2003.

Your map looks really nice, and i wish you all the best in your ut2003 mapping


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Old 08-17-2002, 11:39 AM   #9
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Yes I'm gonna be mapping for it. I might even convert this current map into a UT2k3 map given the time just to have it in another engine too.

The TV is, I think a 30 incher. I can't quite remember. In those shots it would be about 600 inches (30 in x 20 scale).



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Old 08-17-2002, 03:52 PM   #10
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bump on this, gonna have more screenies next time I post



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Old 08-18-2002, 12:11 AM   #11
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K so I promised more screenies so here you are:

http://stormtroopersaga.jedioutcastm...ath/alpha8.jpg
http://stormtroopersaga.jedioutcastm...ath/alpha9.jpg

Let me tell you HOW lucky I was to not get very much deformation when I rotated the tv stand. I was freaked about that. It ended up working with very little deformation and even then it was nothing that couldn't be fixed w/o a little bit of work. Enjoy the screens!



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Old 08-18-2002, 05:44 AM   #12
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Are you going to texture those CDs or DVDs in alpha9 so that they would have their real covers (or such covers as you would like people to think you have in your possession, not that I'd suspect anything...).
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Old 08-18-2002, 10:16 AM   #13
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Are you going to texture those CDs or DVDs in alpha9 so that they would have their real covers (or such covers as you would like people to think you have in your possession, not that I'd suspect anything...).
Yeah I'm gonna texture em. And no I don't own any porn dvds you freak! j/k on the freak part.

Nah, the movies are more along the line of:

Matrix
Austin Powers 2
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Dogma
Dazed and Confused
End of Days
Tomb Raider
Spaceballs
and Resident Evil

(just in case anyone really gave a damn!)



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Old 08-18-2002, 08:17 PM   #14
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ah i see how it is... nobody cares about my cool rats map



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Old 08-18-2002, 08:42 PM   #15
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no, not really man, you should give up

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no really, it looks good like I keep telling you.

Are you gonna make custom textures or are you gonna try and use the ones available?


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Old 08-18-2002, 09:13 PM   #16
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no, not really man, you should give up

j/k


no really, it looks good like I keep telling you.

Are you gonna make custom textures or are you gonna try and use the ones available?
gonna go for all custom



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Old 08-18-2002, 10:20 PM   #17
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http://stormtroopersaga.jedioutcastm...th/alpha10.jpg
http://stormtroopersaga.jedioutcastm...th/alpha11.jpg

Two more screenies.



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Old 08-19-2002, 02:39 AM   #18
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Now, I must say that computer looks impressive. It shows how you can make simple, yet elegant and realistic looking designs with steady hand and stedier intention. A truly timeless piece of art.
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Old 08-19-2002, 08:35 AM   #19
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Now, I must say that computer looks impressive. It shows how you can make simple, yet elegant and realistic looking designs with steady hand and stedier intention. A truly timeless piece of art.
i do need to do the back still and move it up just a little, but thank you



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Old 08-19-2002, 06:23 PM   #20
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bump bumparoo



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Old 08-19-2002, 07:02 PM   #21
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Yeah that computer looks really good is it the same one you used for your rave house map?
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Old 08-19-2002, 08:30 PM   #22
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Yeah that computer looks really good is it the same one you used for your rave house map?
nope... made from scratch.

here's the money shot from behind the pc

http://www.lennon-fan.com/volrath/alpha12.jpg



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Old 08-19-2002, 11:30 PM   #23
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Very nice! I can't wait to play this map!!



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Old 08-20-2002, 01:44 PM   #24
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bump bumparooooooooo!



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Old 08-20-2002, 11:19 PM   #25
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Newest screenie.

http://stormtroopersaga.jedioutcastm...th/alpha13.jpg




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Old 08-20-2002, 11:36 PM   #26
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Looking good! KUTGW!
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Old 08-21-2002, 07:57 AM   #27
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You are going to have some very nice vertice drawing and dragging when you connect your computer properly with all those pesky cables you must have to keep the map as realistic as it is now. And don't forget there's ALWAYS tiny text on the cables telling you the name of some never-heard-of company that made them.
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You are going to have some very nice vertice drawing and dragging when you connect your computer properly with all those pesky cables you must have to keep the map as realistic as it is now. And don't forget there's ALWAYS tiny text on the cables telling you the name of some never-heard-of company that made them.
good idea!



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Old 08-21-2002, 12:53 PM   #29
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K i have a good question here.

will someone (cuz i have trouble with this) make me a to scale keyboard and mouse for my map? i'll credit you for helping most definitely.

i'll find pictures of the mouse and keyboard i have and go from there i just have trouble with the keyboards (my one in rave house sucked ass).



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Old 08-22-2002, 08:25 PM   #31
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newest screenie, with keyboard as donated by Manquesa (thank you)

http://stormtroopersaga.jedioutcastm...th/alpha14.jpg



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Old 08-23-2002, 12:38 AM   #32
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Exclamation Warning!

This is an official friendly map making warning. Your map is too good please change it immediately. Other maps of similar types look terrible when compared to yours. Please change this immediately. Take steps to make your make suck. It is in the best interest of the community that you do so or your map will inevitably be so much beter than any other map of the same type. This was only a warning.

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Old 08-23-2002, 12:55 AM   #33
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Sorry pal.

Not gonna happen. My map will be released.

Plus, no one has ever made a GOOD rats map yet, so I'm gonna make the best one I guess then.

So yes it's getting made and your warning can stay out of my thread please.



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Old 08-23-2002, 02:09 AM   #34
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Just a heads up that Volrath's Lair is being noted on www.jediknightii.net for its concept and great looking WIP pics.. can't wait to play it myself... keep up the good work VolrathXp!


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Old 08-23-2002, 04:07 AM   #35
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I think a mouse hole would be a fun addition to the easter eggs. You can position it in some hard to reach place behind the computer or something, and inside is a big, nasty weapons cache.

Ooh! There should be a way to get inside the computer! Like have a little level warp right in front of the audio output jack, and when you run into it, you reappear in a big, impressive, sort of TRON-like area! Then you can have a big door shaped like a giant audio output jack with an EXIT sign over it.

Okay... that might be a little too much, but just consider it. I still stand by my mouse hole idea.

How about if you step on the keyboard it will type a random phrase, like "PHEAR TEH PORK," or "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US," or "YOU ARE AN IDIOT."

Or how about you can take cover in various objects... like shoes!

Or you could ignore these suggestions entirely because they would be bizzarely difficult. Either way, the maps gonna be SHWEET!

Also, when you say you're going to move on to UT3, do you mean Unreal Tournament, or that Unreal Championship that's coming out for Xbox Live this October? (don't miss it!)


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i mean UT 2003. As in Unreal Tournament 2003.

eww.. XBOX SUCKS!

And thanks for the suggestions.



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Old 08-23-2002, 08:56 AM   #37
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Has radient given you any problems with the size yet?

It seems to hate large maps


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From my understanding, Volrath has a little ace up his sleeve for the computer and what he plans to do with it, but I think he would like to have more of the honor to do it, since its his map. what a way to go out. Making the best Rats map in jedi outcast before moving on to UT 2k3.

And about the size, its not always the size thats the problem, if you can get the light under control, least thats my understanding, because I came across some fairly good sized maps, and they ran 70-100 on my machine just fine. but don't get me wrong, Episode 1 from LivingDeadJedi only runs 14-24 on the same machine so, its not like I have a beefed up machine, least not yet anyway. And plus knowing some tricks like hint brushes, etc. But dont get me wrong, I am the last person on this earth to make a large map.. if it was up to me, i would make a cube, put some lights here and there, and call it Night with a skybox and have people duke it out..!


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Old 08-23-2002, 11:05 PM   #40
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wow your map is coming along very well. when do you think it will be done? also what kinda objects are left in your room?

ive decided that i might scrap my rats map (you know that i was just kidding about that warning thing right?). id rather download your than mine lol. anyway if i pick it up again do you have any tips?


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