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Old 08-11-2002, 05:32 AM   #81
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Very Very nice, Just wish some one knew how to do facial Anamation, so all the awsome models would work for singleplayer cut-vids.


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Old 08-11-2002, 05:49 AM   #82
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The model is really looking great tercero, very nicely done.

I kind of took a pic from a guy earlier and reworked just the pictures themselves, and got this. too bad the term photo-realistic doesn't naturally apply.



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Old 08-11-2002, 07:39 AM   #83
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Looks great but it looks like it have hmm... LOTS of polygons...

How much ???

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LODs ??
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Old 08-11-2002, 08:18 AM   #84
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The current polycount is at 3288. I've been trying to do some optimitation, but it seems that every time I take a poly out, I have to add another in. As far as LOD's the will almost be a necessity, but I haven't really done them to date, so I need to figure out what I'm doing there first.

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Old 08-11-2002, 10:19 AM   #85
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I'm not sure if this because there's no detail or whatever, but the ears look a little big now. Maybe if you could finish skinning the ear we can see what everything looks like.

Btw, great job on the hair and braid!
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Old 08-11-2002, 10:21 AM   #86
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Yeeeesss. You are getting ever closer to anakin. Remember the picture I referred you to in my last post? Check that pic out again. All I would suggest now are minor tweaks. Like try making his face overall less wide(leaving the hair where it is, moving in the temples and cheeks), his lips a TAD bit thinner (from top to bottom, not in width), his nose a TAD bit less wide, and the bridge of his nose a little bit less long. Minor tweaks. Please refer to the pic on padawansguide.com, it will help. After that, it seems that the face will be done. This model is looking superb thusfar. And Andy, that hair is looking real nice.

edit: You might want to refer to headshots 10/1/00 and 7/27/01 on Padawansguide.com for his side profile.


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Old 08-11-2002, 10:40 AM   #87
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hey I know what it is thats making it look weird. His cheek is better now, just not smoothly done right now. Its his chin and Jaw line thats are weird. his chin is smaller and more pointed and his jaw should come up to his ear a bit shorter and should be a bit higher if you know what I mean - right now his Jaw looks too long and low (hes not that old yet). Hope this helps.

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Old 08-11-2002, 11:21 AM   #88
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Ive uploaded all the pics to my own webspace for you...

http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakin.jpg
http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakin2.jpg
http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakin3.jpg
http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakin4.jpg
http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakin5.jpg
http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakin6.jpg
http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakin7.jpg
http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakinclose.jpg
http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakinclose2.jpg

No more geoshi... I mean geocities!! I couldnt get the flat shaded picture as geocities prevented me from viewing it just as i was finishing!

This model is begining to look kick ass!!! Have you thought about what your going to model after this? How about a decent episode 2 Obi wan model to complement your anakin?
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Old 08-11-2002, 11:43 AM   #89
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Tercero, you ought to think about using Andy's rendition of Anakin's head.
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Old 08-11-2002, 11:47 AM   #90
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All I did was blur the jaw/cheekline, and maybe the chin a little, and simply used the rubber stamp tool in photoshop to give the modle actual anakin hair from a pic posted earlier. That's all I did, nothing big... And maybe use actual hair for the braid as well, but thats literally it...


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Old 08-11-2002, 12:01 PM   #91
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I thought his hair was more brownish....


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Old 08-11-2002, 12:12 PM   #92
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Old 08-11-2002, 12:48 PM   #93
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it looks fantastic. I haven't seen the most recent pic cuz of that ghetto bandwith/data transfer crap, but from the others, i have same crit as most other people. The face looks fantastc, and the top of the nose looks great, but it kind of curves out a bit to much and ends in a wierd point. And at the moment the hair looks a big to fro'ie... it will probably looks good with the skin though. So u might want to try just throwing some textures on there and see what it looks like.


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Old 08-11-2002, 12:49 PM   #94
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http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakin_2.jpg

This is the pic I was referring to that i got the photo hair of anakin. Also, keep up the good work tercero. You are almost there.


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Old 08-11-2002, 01:05 PM   #95
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Old 08-11-2002, 01:30 PM   #96
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Okay nevermind about the hair then. The face resemblance to the actor is A M A Z I N G. Have you gotten it in game yet?


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Old 08-11-2002, 09:36 PM   #97
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I'm still pretty far off from getting him in game - I have no experience with 3DS, so if I wind up doing it myself, I'm gonna have to get over a learning curve. Still, I might decide to do it
myself if noone comes forward to help me get him animated. I figure the model could take anywhere between one or two more months to get in-game, I know it's a long estimate, but I work a LOT... I see that people are pretty eager to play it, though, so I might release a rough beta when I do get it working.

Next thing I'm skinning will probably be hair once I'm done with the face - I'm going to try to get it to look somewhat like the hair in the pic that Andy posted - I really like the look of it there. I might make it a bit lighter and sharper though - only time will tell...

As far as future projects, Episode I and II Obi-Wan's are being considered, as well as Mace Windu, or, if I can hack the code, a gameplay mod that improves on saber combat a bit. If people want I'll post some changes I'm thinking about making in the coding or general editing forums. And as always, I'll probably still be updating my Tercero-Sabers to make them look even better. The next pack that I'm releasing will contain more Episode II-ish sabers and possibly new sounds.

Thanks for putting up my pics Matt, I'll edit my old posts accordingly. Also, I need to get in touch with you about how I can quickly post things up on your server so I can release wip shots faster.

And now for the newest screenie!
http://www.geocities.com/tercero_bootleg/anakin8.txt
^ This is a really big one! -Hope you have a large desktop ^
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http://www.geocities.com/anakin_tercero/anakin8.txt

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Old 08-11-2002, 10:08 PM   #98
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how do you fix that .txt thing so i wont get taht dumb geocities thing?
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Old 08-11-2002, 10:15 PM   #99
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I keep getting the Geocites message page saying that you've run out of space.


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Old 08-11-2002, 10:18 PM   #100
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Looking good, but I don't see too much difference from the last pics.

edit: The chin is better though.

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try making his face overall less wide(leaving the hair where it is, moving in the temples and cheeks), his lips a TAD bit thinner (from top to bottom, not in width), his nose a TAD bit less wide, and the bridge of his nose a little bit less long. Minor tweaks. Please refer to the pic on padawansguide.com, it will help.
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Old 08-11-2002, 10:22 PM   #101
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I think the end of his nose is a little too broad....


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Old 08-11-2002, 10:24 PM   #102
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Yeah, the tweaks on this one are more minor - I did thin up the face a bit, rework the jaw, and squash the head just a hair, but all of these changes were pretty slight in the grand scheme - all by millimeters in real-life scale...

Just thought I'd post it to get more feedback on what needs work...

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Old 08-11-2002, 10:25 PM   #103
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Well like I said I think the end of his nose is a little too broad.


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Old 08-11-2002, 10:38 PM   #104
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You were right, funnydude - I just thinned it up a bit...

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Old 08-11-2002, 10:42 PM   #105
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Thanks that oughta do the job . I think the model looks great. Have you been able to get it in game yet or are you still doing the final tweaking stages of the model/skin?


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Old 08-11-2002, 10:55 PM   #106
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-Tercero- I'm sure there are tons of people who could help you get it ingame or help with modeling aspects.

Anybody whos already released a model, I'm sure would help.


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Old 08-11-2002, 11:48 PM   #107
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Okies, after a few tries at making the hair from photos, I decided to just paint it by hand. Here's what I came up with:

http://www.geocities.com/anakin_tercero/anakin9.txt

Or, if that link doesn't work...

http://www.geocities.com/tercero_bootleg/anakin9.txt

might...

Oh, as far as my progress on the model, I've really just started the preliminary skins, and the model is still being tweaked. Seeing this in game is probably still pretty far off, I'd roughly estimate at about a month to complete the base model and skin, and then whatever time it takes to get it in game. If people want, I could release a beta before I finalize the skins, but I'd prefer to finish the product before I release it.

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Old 08-11-2002, 11:54 PM   #108
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The hair looks good. The model could benefit from the other adjustments as well however.


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Old 08-11-2002, 11:56 PM   #109
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comin along very nicely, take ur time on the model/skin, the longer it takes the better it will be in the end, i cant wait!
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Old 08-11-2002, 11:57 PM   #110
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Hmm...I keep thinking that there is something wrong with his eyes...If anyone has any suggestions I'd be happy to hear. I can't seem to figure out what it is...

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Old 08-12-2002, 12:03 AM   #111
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Too big and far apart.

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Old 08-12-2002, 12:04 AM   #112
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the eyes r lookin good, i think the only problem with em is the black around the white part, just play with that color a bit, make it a skin color or make it white, thats all i can see thats wrong, other then that its lookin amazin'
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The nose length in this latest shot looks better. Did you change it, or is it just the angle?


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Old 08-12-2002, 12:24 AM   #114
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Model looks great!

the hair looks great Tercero, and I don't know about the eyes, never noticed anything odd about them, but if anything just play with the color a little, remember, its your model, do with what you like with it to meet your satisfaction, usually a modeler's satisfaction meets that of the general public's. if anything, start working on the rest of the body, and if you think of something for the face do it, but definitely take your time. a model rushed is a model wasted.


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his eyes are a bit big and too far appart, look at this pic (the lower one) http://www.mathus.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/anakin_2.jpg and compare it ot this http://www.geocities.com/anakin_tercero/anakin9.txt

compared to the real actor the model......
-eyes bigger and far appart
-hair a little different color
-skin lighter
-sideburns different (smaller)
-the ear has a weird shape at the bottom of it, not round type

I know that you can't model exact replica but maybe those few things can be fixed on him

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Thumbs up Wow!

Great job so far! I look forward to downloading this one. Keep up the good work but take your time!
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Old 08-12-2002, 03:09 AM   #117
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His ears do seem kinda big, but theres no way to tell intil they are Skinned. Eyes look fine to me, I don't think they are to big.


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Old 08-12-2002, 05:22 AM   #118
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Looks very good so far! Great work!

What I'd suggest is making the eyebrows a bit bushier, moving the eyes overall a tad down, and making the hair on top of his head a bit flatter. Also, I'd recommend shading the eye's white a bit darker, that's particular about Anakin's head, his eye sockets sit very deep, therefore it perhaps should eb shaded a bit more. But very, very nice work!
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Ive found a great pic of his face!

http://movieweb.com/movie/starwars2/co2.jpg
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Old 08-12-2002, 09:47 AM   #120
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Another model to cry at by it's greatness! This a "Holy Good" Job! This is lookin so real, it's scary!!!
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