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Old 11-24-2002, 07:14 PM   #41
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since boba was killed by luke i would have loved to see jango killed by Anikin it would have made the movies so much cooler and brought father and son so much closer. and by the way i like boba fett more than jango fett too. but neither is a match for Plo Koon!


He was accidently killed by Han solo. Not luke.


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Old 11-24-2002, 07:56 PM   #42
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That is incorrect. It is impossible to prevent mutations from occuring in clones, and thus each clone is distinct and different from the base code used to create it. Furthermore, environmental factors can also mutate genetic code. Environment serves to shape much of a person's personality, intelligence, and other traits, as well. So Boba and Jango are very much different people, similar in ability, appearance, and genetics, but different none-the-less.
Where are you getting this stuff from? starwars movies? Or real world science? Because I’m pretty sure that in the star wars universe they can make a perfect clone no worries, and I don’t really give a toss about real world mutations in the genetic code attributed to environmental abnormalities. That is all irrelevant.


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Old 11-24-2002, 08:07 PM   #43
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Where are you getting this stuff from? starwars movies? Or real world science? Because I’m pretty sure that in the star wars universe they can make a perfect clone no worries, and I don’t really give a toss about real world mutations in the genetic code attributed to environmental abnormalities. That is all irrelevant.
Just a little quote from the SW Databanks to support the fact that clones are not always perfect in SW:

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The relentless battery of physical and mental training within such an accelerated lifetime could potentially drive a clone mad were it not for the highly structured and balanced development program instituted by the Kaminoans. Though care was taken to protect the clone psyche, the fully mature clone cannot be said to have a "normal" personality, as their identities are wholly shaped by military training and subservience to authority.
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The Kaminoans are obsessed with order and control over variables, and carefully monitored the developing clones for any deviance in biochemistry. These statistical anomalies were smoothed over under the supervision of Kaminoan Chief Scientist Ko Sai through extra conditioning. The Kaminoans reconditioned an average of seven aberrant clones for every two hundred clones.
So you know what....


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Old 11-24-2002, 08:45 PM   #44
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Where are you getting this stuff from? starwars movies? Or real world science? Because I’m pretty sure that in the star wars universe they can make a perfect clone no worries, and I don’t really give a toss about real world mutations in the genetic code attributed to environmental abnormalities.
Real world science does apply. Perfect cloning would involve a dynamic reshaping of the laws of physics, a reshaping that it not present in the Star Wars universe. Besides, if we're talking about purely what you can see from the movies, there is no evidence that real world science DOESN'T apply. And considering the emperical evidence available, I'd say it does.


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Old 11-26-2002, 01:05 AM   #45
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read timothy zahns heir to the empire trilogy and you'll see that those facts are stated in those books.


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Old 11-26-2002, 08:55 PM   #46
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I just watched the EP II comentary and they stated that there was Star Wars physics so I guess that real world physics don't apply. So the Cloning isn't exact.


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Old 11-26-2002, 09:07 PM   #47
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I just watched the EP II comentary and they stated that there was Star Wars physics so I guess that real world physics don't apply.
Please write the mathematical formulas governing the physics of the Star Wars universe and show me how they either allow for interaction of closed systems or completely redefine the laws governing particle interaction, and how that emulates our universe so well. Until you do, I will assume that the Star Wars universe shares many of our universes attributes, including the inability to prevent genetic mutations.


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Old 11-27-2002, 03:51 AM   #48
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I just gave you were you can find them. I am not going to write them down to you cause there are no mathematical formulas. If you would like I can have George Lucas call you and tell you himself?

I am not trying to make fun at you but you keep coming back and I honestly can't give you the answers that you want. You need to not be so critical here. It is a Sci-Fi movie and we can also argue about how a vehicle such as a TIE Fighter can bank in space at such a high speed and so sharp turns. You can choose to believe what you want cause we are alowed to do that here. I just hope that you do not take my comment in a offensive way. Hope there are no hard feelings.


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Old 11-27-2002, 07:34 PM   #49
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To quote some guy here at LF (don't remember the name, this is not an exact quote either) :

"Jango Fett was killed by a great Jedi Master. Boba Fett was killed by a blind guy with a stick."

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2: Jango Fett is the ally and personal bodyguard of Count Dooku, the greatest Star Wars character ever. Anyone associated with the Count is brilliant, and (as far as I can see) Jango has more ties with the dark lord than Boba. Does Count Dooku even know who the little ten-year-old is standing in his VIP box?
The task that Dooku accomplished best was probably training Qui-Gon Jinn, the greatest Star-Wars character ever. To get some new life in this debate, I will also now tell you all that if ep2 dooku and ep1 Qui-Gon would have batteled, Qui-Gon would have won. This has a lot to do with Qui-Gon's type of fighting, strategic slices, perfectly timed, but not too fast. With this tactic, he owned Maul before Maul started cheating. Because Qui-Gon fought safely, but still with a speed less than Maul prefered, and keeping an instant pressure at Maul. Also, as an earlier Jedi Master, Dooku has hounor, and is therefore [very important]not cheating[/very important]. The outcome of a such battle would, after my opinion, be that Qui-Gon would've defeated his earlier master.
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Old 11-27-2002, 07:44 PM   #50
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Here is what I conclude with about Jango and Boba. There is no proof that either of them is better then the other. Mainly because we didn't Boba fighting a lot. He only fought against Luke for like 10 sec in ESB and 1 min in RotJ. If we saw Boba in his full might we could compare him to Jango but he almost didn't do anything!


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Old 12-13-2002, 03:17 AM   #51
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Real world science does apply. Perfect cloning would involve a dynamic reshaping of the laws of physics, a reshaping that it not present in the Star Wars universe. Besides, if we're talking about purely what you can see from the movies, there is no evidence that real world science DOESN'T apply. And considering the emperical evidence available, I'd say it does.
Since when does real world science apply to a science fiction?!?!?!
Force powers for example. Nobody can choke somebody with their mind. It's impossible. Same with force lightning. So we can assume that they can create a perfect clone. Star Wars is not fenced in by "Real world science." ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IN STAR WARS. If there were boundaries, Star Wars wouldn't be fun, now would it?




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Old 12-13-2002, 09:52 PM   #52
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Since when does real world science apply to a science fiction?!?!?!
Force powers for example. Nobody can choke somebody with their mind. It's impossible. Same with force lightning. So we can assume that they can create a perfect clone. Star Wars is not fenced in by "Real world science." ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IN STAR WARS. If there were boundaries, Star Wars wouldn't be fun, now would it?


You don't think I can choke someone with only the power of my mind do you!
Let me show you......................

*concentrates*

*still trying to choke you*

Damn I can't do it anymore....


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Old 12-13-2002, 11:15 PM   #53
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get off of dooku's balls dammit

this isnt a forum about dooku, ya know, the sith lord with a dick for a lightsaber. boba rules cuz he can disintegrate people
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Old 12-14-2002, 07:34 PM   #54
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Were we talking about Dooku? I don't remember that.....


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