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Old 11-27-2002, 07:50 AM   #1
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Exclamation Ep2 Mistakes!

There are bound to be a few mistakes in every film, so let's make this the place to list the mistakes in Ep2.

I noticed a mistake when the Jedi where getting onto the gunship with Yoda. Luminara Unduli, Kit Fisto, Ki Adi Mundi, Mace Windu and a couple of other Jedi got on to it but only Mace, Kit and Ki got off it. Where did the other Jedi dissapear to?

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Old 11-27-2002, 08:35 AM   #2
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Didn't yoda stop off at the command area?


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That was after he dropped them off.


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Old 11-27-2002, 10:18 AM   #4
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nope... but sometimes kiadi uses a green lightsaber... that was taken from another bloopers threat...
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Old 11-27-2002, 12:16 PM   #5
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Why didn't Dooku and Kenobi sense each other, they practicly ran into each other in the hallway?

Sure, may the dark side clouded Obi Wan, but Dooku should have definitely felt Obi Wan's presence.

I suppose maybe Dooku let Obi Wan run around a little bit first so he coudl send the message to Coruscant so the war coudl start, but it's a pretty thin theory.


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Old 11-27-2002, 01:55 PM   #6
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He probably wasnt using his Force sense. Notice when ever a Jedi or Sith senses a presence they are concentrating, connecting with the Force, looking for a presense. In every movie they do that. George would never screw up something like that. Btw Luke could sense Vader even though Vader had the Dark side, but thats because they were reaching through the Force to eachother. If it was just Luke searching then he wouldnt sense Vader. But since they passed by Vaders command ship Exectutor in Rotj it was pretty obvious Vader was around. And Obi didnt have to try and sense Dooku. He walked right in front of Obi. So duh, there he is.


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Old 11-27-2002, 04:09 PM   #7
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He was too busy with his meeting to worry about Obiwan at the time. He's a upper class diplomat afterall. Probably figured the jedi wasn't such a concern that it had to be dealt with immediately (not when Dooku's engrossed in talking politics). He could have sensed him and then after the meeting told his droids that there's a jedi about that they should bring the Jedi before him.

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Re: Ep2 Mistakes!

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There are bound to be a few mistakes in every film, so let's make this the place to list the mistakes in Ep2.

I noticed a mistake when the Jedi where getting onto the gunship with Yoda. Luminara Unduli, Kit Fisto, Ki Adi Mundi, Mace Windu and a couple of other Jedi got on to it but only Mace, Kit and Ki got off it. Where did the other Jedi dissapear to?

Have you noticed any mistakes?

what makes you think that that ship didnt drop off the other jedi beforehand? they obviously made several stops because yoda got off at the forward command center. makes sense to spread the jedi around and have them play roles as directors of the battle instead of a small contingent of jedi acting together against a single point. i mean look how bad just jedi got beat in the arena. 200 jedi entered 20 left (something around that number). we know yoda did some tactical directing "concentrate all your fire on the nearest starship" not until the enemy were all retreating could yoda request a ship and move towards dooku. and mace windu had a bit of directing the forces as well "sir,ive got 5 special commando units awaiting your order, sir" *something along those lines* mace directed some special clones in some mission and anakin/obi while protecting the senator directed the gunships attacks "aim right above the fuel cells" "attack those federation starships, quickly!". you can also see a few jedi leading the foot march of the clone troopers into the fray.




i suppose it was probably just not thought about by the ppl at lucasfilms but this explanation is one of a few that could explain it



edit: proper quote and spelling.

edit: second edit, i just watched that part again and it looked to me that luminara etc got on a different gunship then mace and kiadi etc.

edit: third edit, sorry for the constant editing but it beats triple posting. i may be wrong about a fair bit of that, im not really sure. i was tired when i posted that and i was in an arguementative mood. please go back to enjoying your thread.


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Old 11-29-2002, 01:22 AM   #9
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Well......

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Why didn't Dooku and Kenobi sense each other, they practicly ran into each other in the hallway?

Sure, may the dark side clouded Obi Wan, but Dooku should have definitely felt Obi Wan's presence.

I suppose maybe Dooku let Obi Wan run around a little bit first so he coudl send the message to Coruscant so the war coudl start, but it's a pretty thin theory.

If I am Count Dooku and there is a puny little Jedi Knight out there trying to play "Mr. Stealth" why not let him considering you know you can whoop him. He calls out the Jedi's or the Senate. Why not? You have like 10,000 battle droids at your disposal. Just my thinking though.
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It's very possible he knew obiwan was there, but he WANTED obiwan to see their meeting and tell the republic. I mean, his entire purpose was to start a war, so what better way than to inform the senate that the separatists have a huge army



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Old 11-29-2002, 05:57 AM   #12
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Re: Re: Ep2 Mistakes!

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what makes you think that that ship didnt drop off the other jedi beforehand? they obviously made several stops because yoda got off at the forward command center. makes sense to spread the jedi around and have them play roles as directors of the battle instead of a small contingent of jedi acting together against a single point. i mean look how bad just jedi got beat in the arena. 200 jedi entered 20 left (something around that number). we know yoda did some tactical directing "concentrate all your fire on the nearest starship" not until the enemy were all retreating could yoda request a ship and move towards dooku. and mace windu had a bit of directing the forces as well "sir,ive got 5 special commando units awaiting your order, sir" *something along those lines* mace directed some special clones in some mission and anakin/obi while protecting the senator directed the gunships attacks "aim right above the fuel cells" "attack those federation starships, quickly!". you can also see a few jedi leading the foot march of the clone troopers into the fray.




i suppose it was probably just not thought about by the ppl at lucasfilms but this explanation is one of a few that could explain it



edit: proper quote and spelling.

edit: second edit, i just watched that part again and it looked to me that luminara etc got on a different gunship then mace and kiadi etc.

edit: third edit, sorry for the constant editing but it beats triple posting. i may be wrong about a fair bit of that, im not really sure. i was tired when i posted that and i was in an arguementative mood. please go back to enjoying your thread.
They didn't get on a different gunship because Ki helped them on!

I understand that they must have been dropped off somewhere, that is obvious, but we don't see that happening and in my eyes that is a mistake.


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Old 11-29-2002, 02:34 PM   #13
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- When Anakin is meditating, there is rain falling on the ground next to him, but it isn't supposed to be raining (most of the rain was edited out by ILM).

- Obi-wan's lightsaber mysteriously turned on without the usual noise just before Jango fired a rocket at him.

- Jango's head should be visible somewhere in the scene with Boba examining his helmet, but it isn't (at least I think it should be lying on the ground near there).

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Old 11-29-2002, 08:21 PM   #14
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Re: Ep2 Mistakes!

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There are bound to be a few mistakes in every film, so let's make this the place to list the mistakes in Ep2.

I noticed a mistake when the Jedi where getting onto the gunship with Yoda. Luminara Unduli, Kit Fisto, Ki Adi Mundi, Mace Windu and a couple of other Jedi got on to it but only Mace, Kit and Ki got off it. Where did the other Jedi dissapear to?

Have you noticed any mistakes?
Maybe they just got off on the other side of the ship



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Old 11-29-2002, 08:43 PM   #15
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Maybe they just got off on the other side of the ship
So you're saying they got on it and then got off the other side! What is the point it that? lol

It's a mistake, face it!


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Old 11-30-2002, 04:07 AM   #16
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Jango's head should be visible somewhere in the scene with Boba examining his helmet, but it isn't (at least I think it should be lying on the ground near there).
Actually, if you watch closely when the helmet is flying away after being lopped off you will see a shadow pass in the opposite direction of the helmet. that shadow is Jango's head.



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Old 11-30-2002, 10:58 AM   #17
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Ah, I'm glad you posted that pic, thnx. I was looking for his head and couldn't find it. I thought I must be the only one who doesn't see his blooming head?! lol


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Old 11-30-2002, 01:32 PM   #18
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Re: Re: Re: Ep2 Mistakes!

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So you're saying they got on it and then got off the other side! What is the point it that? lol

It's a mistake, face it!
just watched that spot in the movie again, sorry LeXX but you're wrong, KI adi mundi mace windu yoda and kit fisto shared one transport, no other jedi were with them. i think you're mistaking another black jedi for Mace. at first i thought it might be him that helps that large group of alien jedi on to one gunship but on closer inspection that guys much older and a little chunkier. it was not a mistake you just didnt look carefully enough.


edit: and powerbroker, Obi's lightsaber doesnt turn off, it just looks that way because he turns it to face the camera. makes sense to, would you lower your guard in front of jango fett?


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Old 11-30-2002, 05:11 PM   #19
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I agree. I must apologise, I just watched it again too and you are right! They get on a different transport altogether! Ki Adi Mundi and Mace are already on the gunship and Ki helps on Kit Fisto but thats it.

Someone said they replaced they wrong window. That is wrong too, I watched that bit and Obi jumps out the middle window and the middle window is replaced.


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Old 11-30-2002, 05:44 PM   #20
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edit: and powerbroker, Obi's lightsaber doesnt turn off, it just looks that way because he turns it to face the camera.
Heh. I never noticed that. I always assumed he was lowering it, not turning it in another direction.


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- Jango's head should be visible somewhere in the scene with Boba examining his helmet, but it isn't (at least I think it should be lying on the ground near there).

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Really? I've always thought that his head was still in the helmet when Boba examined it. Have I really been that wrong?
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Really? I've always thought that his head was still in the helmet when Boba examined it. Have I really been that wrong?


ET: I know the head flew away, but I think it didn't go far enough away that it wouldn't rest a few yards away from where the helmet is.


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Well the helmet was moving at a pretty good speed, thus the head was moving at a good speed, and they separated and had about 2 seconds of movement on differing vectors. Quite possible it was a long ways away.....It also could have been back behind boba when he's lifting up the helmet, and just a few feet off-screen.



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hehe, sorry bout naggin ya LeXX. Powerbroker i would probably have posted that as a mistake if i had watched it and been looking for mistakes, its just that im a very contrary person and i tend to look for things that are opposites of waht ppl say just so i can prove em wrong. its not very nice and its a bad habit so im sorry to everybody.

oh and the biggest mistake of all in ep2 was jango dying, i dont care if it was necessary for the plot that guy was cool and he deserved to live. stupid rampaging reek broke his jetpack. grrrrrr.


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awww thanks LeXX you're all heart.

anybody notice the scene where ani and padme are eating on naboo? he floats her over a piece of fruit and she "eats" it. that look incredibly weird to anybody else? i cant really describe it but go watch it and tell me what you think.

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awww thanks LeXX you're all heart.

anybody notice the scene where ani and padme are eating on naboo? he floats her over a piece of fruit and she "eats" it. that look incredibly weird to anybody else? i cant really describe it but go watch it and tell me what you think.

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Uhhhh, what's so wierd? I mean, yeah, people don't usually stab food out of mid-air, sure, but...?
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sorry for not being clear enough. my fault.

i didnt mean when she stabbed it, i meant when she BIT it. look closely at the fruit as she bites it. i think you will see what i mean. she bites the front of it, and like half the fruit snaps off. it just looks... wrong. i dont think they meant to do it like that. i dunno.


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i didnt mean when she stabbed it, i meant when she BIT it. look closely at the fruit as she bites it. i think you will see what i mean. she bites the front of it, and like half the fruit snaps off. it just looks... wrong. i dont think they meant to do it like that. i dunno.
I noticed it too. It's a byproduct of the CGI they used to render the fruit, since Padmé doesn't actually bite anything.


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I agree, it does look very strange, hard to describe why, it just does! Also, when he first cuts the fruit he cuts it in half and the bit he floats over to her is a lot smaller than half of it!

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Old 12-02-2002, 04:18 PM   #31
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What about the clonetrooper not helping a Lady like Padme to rise up (taking her hand for example) That's BAD manners I think it is for the CGI thing, but maybe they didnt thought about it... (because they have made CGI-Real interactions pretty well in that movie...)


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actually LexX, its bad ettiquette to cut a pear in half and try to bite pieces off of that half. So what Anakin did was he cut the fruit in half, but then sliced a thin bit and then floated it over to Padme.


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Old 12-03-2002, 02:49 PM   #33
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Well the Reek (or whatever the Bully arena beast is called - tell me the name of the three plz- ) is very small when Anakin calms down it. When people is mounted on it it is bigger.


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I think there is a "Reek","Aclay" and "Nexu".
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Rskateboy got it. The Acklay was after obiwan and the nexu was after padme.



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actually LexX, its bad ettiquette to cut a pear in half and try to bite pieces off of that half. So what Anakin did was he cut the fruit in half, but then sliced a thin bit and then floated it over to Padme.
that's funny, I only saw him cut the fruit once!


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I liked the Acklay. It kicked ass. I was kinda sad when it died. I wanted to see it take out some more battle droids and eat some more people!


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Old 12-04-2002, 01:32 AM   #38
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But you also forget that Anakin says that if Obi-wan saw him using the force, he would throw a fit, and then the camera panned to Padme, in which Anakin would have had to time cut the thin slice.


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Old 12-13-2002, 03:03 AM   #39
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Jango's head should be visible somewhere in the scene with Boba examining his helmet, but it isn't (at least I think it should be lying on the ground near there).
Why would they show Boba picking up his father's head? That would probably make the movie rating go up to PG-13 would it not? Besides, Boba wouldn't want to see his father's decaptitated head, his helmet would be a little easier to look at than your father's head.

Oh, and Jango hit his head while entering Slave 1. (one of the funnier moments of the trilogy.)
Another mistake is making Jango die. He killed the Deranged dark Jedi Komari Vosa who had a freaking cult at her disposal. BIG mistake.
(Oh well, he died fighting at least.)




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Old 12-13-2002, 01:00 PM   #40
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Yes the fruit scene seems a little odd (they should not have shown the bite.) But if fact all it utterly perfect until the bite. I love how well is it done when Padme catches the fruit and moves the fork.

The Jango pumping his head on the ship was made intentionally, since he is CGI (i think)

Am i or every time i see this movie i got more amazed by the CGI?!

You know those clone troopers, obi-wan, Mace Windu, Yoda, Jango, the animals....

I think ILM is the only company that has managed to catch the essence in Human movement, but of course they are far off to create a perfect person yet


Did you know that there were two Jedi that are CGI? They fooled me with those. I'm sad i knew the Clonetroopers were all CGI, i would have liked to get amazed (seeing the movie and Believing they were as real as stormtroopers....)

If this movie does not win an oscar, wich one could?


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