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Old 11-29-2002, 09:34 PM   #1
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to throw or not to throw your saber

Hey all i was wondering to throw or not to throw your saber, many people call me a cheater for throwing my saber when they jump over me and i throw it into there back what do you think is it cheap or just a good clean kill like i think

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Old 11-29-2002, 09:40 PM   #2
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Old 11-29-2002, 09:58 PM   #3
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ya i know seriously why would raven even have put it into the game if its a "cheat"?

tell those wussies to shape up and start practicing their skillz instead of whining all day.
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Old 11-29-2002, 10:48 PM   #4
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Re: to throw or not to throw your saber

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Hey all i was wondering to throw or not to throw your saber, many people call me a cheater for throwing my saber when they jump over me and i throw it into there back what do you think is it cheap or just a good clean kill like i think

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A CHEAT?!

Yea...okay...great. So now people think saber throw is cheating?

IMHO spamming *any* move gets boring (DFA, lunge, lightning, crouch, rolling, jumping). If you spam throw 24/7, you are a boring player. But it has nothing to do with cheating.

If you have sacrificed your force points in saber throw, you should use it...unless you're dumb.

People tend to whine no matter what you do. Today someone complained about "Force-whores" in a Full Force FFA.


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Old 11-30-2002, 04:03 AM   #5
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For me I rarely use saber throw in MP because it causes SO little damage at times and is sometimes real hard to aim.In fact,once,my saber NEVER returned to me(someone placed some scripts on me,of course) and I had to die just to get it back.I wanted to take a screenshot but somehow it won't work.Sh@t!


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Old 11-30-2002, 10:38 AM   #6
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I'm sure anyone whose been playing this game longer than a few months has lost their saber, its something to do with animation getting interupted mid throw. Just go round kicking people till you get killed
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Old 11-30-2002, 03:22 PM   #7
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Well they seeem to think in a duel it should be no force at all and just saber to saber no throwing and well part of my tactics are to let you jump to me i move you eat a throwen saber but in a duel people seem to think that well throwing is for lossers

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Old 11-30-2002, 04:51 PM   #8
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When I play on duel servers (which is rare) I don't toss my saber, but I've got no problem with people who do. Every tactic has a counter

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Old 11-30-2002, 04:53 PM   #9
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so i guess vader was "cheating" when he threw his saber at luke eh? its not cheating just another skill to master!


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Old 11-30-2002, 09:13 PM   #10
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The idiocy of online gamers never ceases to amaze me. Its amazing to see how many things people believe is cheating. I almost never use saber throw in Jedi Outcast (In JK-SBX 3.1 it's a must for me!), except in a limited (some disabled) force game.. especially at the coky (... uh, the board recognized it as cuss word...) n00bs who try to kick me to death (you forgot that one, Solar). It's not cheating, but I do find it annoying when someone who's good with it comes along and kills me with it over and over.. but eh. I suck anyways
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Old 12-01-2002, 10:36 AM   #11
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Seems like a big waste of force points to me, saber throw is good for sp and bots but not against a thinking human being.


Honestly I can't remember the last time someone killed me with a saber throw.

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Old 12-01-2002, 04:43 PM   #12
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You should try it against newbs
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Old 12-01-2002, 05:42 PM   #13
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i just think throw should have some more penalties. the only reason vader threw his saber was cause luke was inexperiences and was caught off guard. it would be incredibly easy for a jedi to gain control of a saber throw at him if he expected it. i just think there should be more of a loss/risk when using it.
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Old 12-01-2002, 06:04 PM   #14
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Old 12-01-2002, 06:52 PM   #15
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Two words: Pull Throw.

It works on the ignorant, and I only use it when I see someone abusing the boomerang.
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Old 12-01-2002, 08:04 PM   #16
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Uuuhh.... B-b-boomerang? I thought we were talking about saber throw


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Old 12-02-2002, 07:21 AM   #17
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How is it cheating if it's a normal force power?
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Old 12-02-2002, 02:53 PM   #18
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Well thanks all for the replies i did not exp. to get this many well there are still people that say no saber throwing in a duel Hmm i think its good but as every one says and i agree nebies are what is good for and well if there back is to you
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Old 12-02-2002, 06:03 PM   #19
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Bots love saber throw.... and lightning.. but that's another story...

I sometimes allocate points towards Saber Throw, but Team Heal is more worth the points
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Old 12-03-2002, 02:45 PM   #20
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umm add more penalties to sab throw? it is weak already. and the only way its good is to take shields down by pull throwing or dragers. now if it did fifty damage or sixty, it would be more useful for actual kills against drainers or healers. its almost completely useless without pull unless ur trying to hit someone down or in dfa


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Old 12-04-2002, 06:28 PM   #21
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What is it with these people that think anything that can kill them is cheating? What next? "Playing JKII is cheating!" LOL!
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Old 12-04-2002, 09:56 PM   #22
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It's not cheating per se, but it IS cheap when people just sit back and throw, seeing as it does about 20 damage each time.


Sure, the occaisional throw is fine, but people who just throw and throw and throw and stand back so they dont have to get near you are cheap.

I prefer servers with throw disabled.


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Old 12-05-2002, 08:58 AM   #23
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like someone just said...there is always a counter...personally i dont care if someone uses sabre throw all the time, is a lighting whore or speed freak thats just the way they play...ever wonder if your style of fighting was annoying to them?

exactly so personally i say let anyone play how they want to within the set papametres of the server ( cept cheating - they should be auto kicked and banned as well as getting someone to come round their house and kicking their ass/es )
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Old 12-05-2002, 02:17 PM   #24
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long range throws are useless, unless ffa when u can get a lucky hit off 2 ppl. so ppl who sit back and throw prolly won't kill.

throws are best used in a pull kick combo to add 30 damage.


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Old 12-05-2002, 03:59 PM   #25
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i just think throw should have some more penalties. the only reason vader threw his saber was cause luke was inexperiences and was caught off guard. it would be incredibly easy for a jedi to gain control of a saber throw at him if he expected it. i just think there should be more of a loss/risk when using it.
whats to say it wont work on newbs and people who arent paying attention? thats just the same as your argument for luke!


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Old 12-05-2002, 09:52 PM   #26
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apparently George Lucas and all the pple at lucasarts thought it was a legal manuever, otherwise they wouldnt put it as a cappability in the game. i dont play mp but i use it like HELL in sp.





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Old 12-05-2002, 10:41 PM   #27
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Throw is a good tactic for use against heavy stance players, those who keep using yellow finishers, etc. The lag in the move at the end of the animation is a good point to toss your saber.

Also, for heavy and even yellow players it's easy to toss into their swings... best to be very close. In fact, if you're close enough, the opponent doesn't even realize you're throwing.

I also use it as a counter to the blue stance monkey that runs around (sometimes with Force Speed) swinging wildly. Two or three good tosses usually chills them out.

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Old 12-06-2002, 01:34 AM   #28
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i say that throwing your saber is a bad idea.its a waste of the force meter for me.


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Old 12-06-2002, 04:29 AM   #29
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Throw is best used asan interlinking move in and between combos, where you want to add that extra 30hp damage, eg. pull+Kick+throw or a knock down you are too far away to reach... it can be abused badly when all one does is pull+throw though, and it becomes a boomerang contest
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Old 12-06-2002, 02:13 PM   #30
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ya thats right. kick works best in a combo
pull throw is also good for killing ppl who forget about drain/bacta and run after dark rage runs out.


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Old 12-06-2002, 02:29 PM   #31
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how do u kick? i never have figured that out! even with my amazing saber skills!


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Old 12-07-2002, 01:27 PM   #32
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Saber throwing newbs. Cant figure out how to fight? So sit back an throw your saber into a crowd of ppl. Not a cheat, just more gay cheap spam. To block. DO NOTHING! Autoblock will catch it.
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Saber throwing newbs. Cant figure out how to fight? So sit back an throw your saber into a crowd of ppl. Not a cheat, just more gay cheap spam. To block. DO NOTHING! Autoblock will catch it.
I agree.... the newbs get annoying, but their easy to defeat when they throw.... But if you use it right, Throw can be a nice tool in a fight. The trick is to throw when they can't block.... visit me sometime on FES public... I show you what I mean.

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Old 12-07-2002, 07:00 PM   #34
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I use as one of those "bored-and-feel-like-doing-something-different-for-a-change" moves. Heh. Now if you're playing with better and more advance players you should think before you toss your only weapon away..


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Old 12-09-2002, 04:37 PM   #35
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If i have just gotten a good hit on the person adn I have a little force left then yea I'll use throw.
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Old 12-09-2002, 05:38 PM   #36
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If a n00b can't jump over you and spin mid air to block the thrown saber, they deserve to take the dirt nap.

I haven't tried it but think it would be fun to Pull the thrown saber when fighting Saber Throw monkeys. Be nice if you could then dual wield sabers chasing them around.
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Old 12-12-2002, 02:09 PM   #37
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wtf. of course u can't do that,


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