WIP: Saesee Tiin

Psyk0Sith · 01-05-2003, 04:54 PM

The holiday season kinda slowed down my projects, but here's something i started yesterday...

Click if you cant see image
This is only a texture test and i'm not even looking at polycount right now cuz the head is not done.

Thank Wolf Devil for the request...i wouldnt have started something for Saesee, but since he asked so nicely

.

I still need some reference pics if anyone can help, that would really make things easier.

I'm also working on Ponda Baba and "slave" Anakin when Oxygen team is ready. Updates will be slow, but i hope to finish this sucker anyway.

*El Sitherino* · 01-05-2003, 04:58 PM

that looks cool.

Lord Tnuc · 01-05-2003, 05:11 PM

http://www.starwars.jp/character/image/saesee_tiin.jpg

http://www.starwars.com/databank/cha.../img/curve.jpg

http://riddlesinthedark.com/RebelsHa.../saesee001.jpg

Hope these help. I really like this idea, by the way.

Padawan_7 · 01-05-2003, 06:29 PM

Wow, Saesee Tiin. Great choice!

He's looking good.

GreenDevil · 01-05-2003, 06:55 PM

WOW!! Psyk0Sith, once again you have proven yourself to be one of the best modellers and skinners out there. Your work is superb!!!

I still wish you would have finished that Plo Koon model of yours, it would have been awesome!

Hellfire Jedi · 01-05-2003, 07:28 PM

I think im gonna be asking this now or never... so why the hell not now

Psyk0 I love your models, so in other words... may I beta test this?

BTW, Looks good your a great modeler Yarael proved that to be beyond true. Good Luck!

Psyk0Sith · 01-05-2003, 08:05 PM

Hey GreenDevil!

I can model, but i cant skin! it's a good thing that Grafox and Marz could help me with Ki and Yarael.

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Originally posted by Hellfire Jedi
I think im gonna be asking this now or never... so why the hell not now
Psyk0 I love your models, so in other words... may I beta test this?

Of course, after all you are the official JK2 forum beta tester, right? (someone should buy that title for ya

)

Hellfire Jedi · 01-05-2003, 08:45 PM

lol make me smile how do i earn points on gonna get me some points so i can get that title

boinga1 · 01-05-2003, 10:35 PM

looks good but the nose looks a little too low on his face...maybe it's just the angle.

Mest · 01-05-2003, 11:07 PM

great job so far. saesse tiin is one of my fav jedi. good luck.

[JKZ]_Yun · 01-06-2003, 06:27 AM

cool Psyk0 nice done
keep the good working

-

Yun

inbredyokel · 01-06-2003, 08:30 PM

Hey, I'd like to skin this biatch if you don't have anyone else lined up. Btw, I can get some good shots of the back of his head from the dvd when I'm home, it might be helpful since it looks really odd and bulbous(not what you'd expect from the front)...

nomad · 01-07-2003, 02:43 PM

Great choice again PsykoSith!!

You and Mars did such a great job on Yareal... definitley one of the best models yet, so I'm really looking forward to this one.

One thing that might be of interest to you...
Saese Tiin seems to look different in Episode I and Episode II.
You might want to make a choice of which one you are doing (if you haven't already).
In Phantom Menace, his face seems to be thicker/ he has a stronger jaw, I think. In AOTC his face is slimmer and longer.
The pics linked by Lord Tnuc are all the Phantom Menace version (Which I personally prefer

)
The one thing to keep in mind (for skinning) is his striking yellow eyes and the strange patterns on the back of his head.
The POTJ hasbro 3 3/4" action figure is actually quite a good reference for his head, including the back. That's the older figure with the robe, not the latest AOTC wave.

Best of luck, and thanks so much for your work. Because of you, we're that much closer to the completion of the Jedi Council.

some pics from Sir Steve's Guide

-nomad

MTFBWY
pics from the official site

{BK}SupremePain · 01-07-2003, 02:49 PM

yup Psyko.... looking kick ass as always

Psyk0Sith · 01-07-2003, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by inbredyokel
Hey, I'd like to skin this biatch if you don't have anyone else lined up. Btw, I can get some good shots of the back of his head from the dvd when I'm home, it might be helpful since it looks really odd and bulbous(not what you'd expect from the front)...

Of course you can skin him!, tho it might take a while before you get anything.

Send the pics please, the more reference, the better!
psykopat@geocities.com

Thanks man.

nomad:
I was going for the TPM look, since that's what i have on the pictures.

What should he be wearing? in the real pics he's wearing a robe Some action figures show him without the robe...but that's not Lucas approved i believe.

Thanks for the pics, that's very helpful for the clothes too.

ninja · 01-08-2003, 05:59 PM

hey that looks fantabulis. no no fantasmic

nomad · 01-09-2003, 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by Psyk0Sith

What should he be wearing? in the real pics he's wearing a robe Some action figures show him without the robe...but that's not Lucas approved i believe.

I'd go with the robes, definitely. I believe that's all you ever see him wear in the films. And I know that YOU can weight the robes as well as the JK2 engine can handle them... so go for it

I'm so glad you're working on this guy, he is one cool looking Jedi.

-nomad

MTFBWY

Sinister12 · 01-09-2003, 04:42 AM

That model looks fantastic! It's great to see slowly all the members of the Jedi Council being re-created for Jedi Knight II. Great work!.

I'm not sure if when you create the model, if you create them to different size. It seems the JediMod1.2(if loaded), makes the model the size you create it, so for instance, Ki-Adi Mundi is supposedly 1.98 meters, where as Saesee Tiin is around i think 1.85. I'm not sure if you'll be taking height into consideration, but it is a cool thing, since it does give them that more realistic look, since they all vary in height.

-s/<itzo- · 01-09-2003, 01:00 PM

all right, finally a Saesee Tiin model.

i'm impressive. keep up the great work.

12thMonkey · 01-09-2003, 01:51 PM

'bout time someone made Saesee Tiin

From looking at the pics, it looks too me like the horns are way too thin, but the face looks good.

As for the robed or not question, how about making the robe removable by typing model saesee_tiin or model saesee_tiin/robed in the console like Toonces has done on the models he made with Tex_360?

inbredyokel · 01-09-2003, 02:05 PM

I have screen captures from aotc that may shock and appaul many of you...prepare yourselves. It's Saessee Tiin- without a robe.
http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/saesee2.txt

As you can see, he has a regular jedi uniform, it's just especially long around the legs(but clearly not a robe). It also appears that the tabbards on the front continue all the way down. There's also a couple shots of the back of his head, his boots, and a blurry one of his hand.

ninja · 01-09-2003, 02:23 PM

@ psychosith, i think earlyer on you had said you wanted someone to skin this model or something. well i've seen this one guys work and it looks good. maybe you or anyone else for that matter might wanna ask this guy to be on your team or something. because this guy is good with his work. i dont know if he's done game models before but his 3d effects and characters are morbidly awsome. maybe this guy might be interested, i only found his work by accident. http://www.3demonic.com/galindex.html

Psyk0Sith · 01-09-2003, 03:06 PM

Thanks inbredyokel!, i dont even remember seeing him in action, that's quite a shock! hehe, if you have more just mail them to me.

psykopat@geocities.com

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psychosith, i think earlyer on you had said you wanted someone to skin this model or something

inbred said he was interested, so if he still wants to do it then he's hired.

Thanks for the suggestion ninja, cool site!

inbredyokel · 01-09-2003, 03:38 PM

I am definitely still interested. I've been waiting for this model for a long time, and I think I would practically pay you to let me skin it (just don't get any ideas).

t3rr0r · 01-09-2003, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by inbredyokel
I have screen captures from aotc that may shock and appaul many of you...prepare yourselves. It's Saessee Tiin- without a robe.
http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/saesee2.txt

i'm not shocked at all... i was already aware that tiin wore a somewhat normal jedi outfit. eeth koth also has a similar longer outfit... although with a turtle neck type shirt.

wannadie · 01-09-2003, 07:58 PM

cool, I been waiting for this one, one of my favourite jedi, did'nt know his name tho.

holy cr@p, the back his head looks like an a$$. that was shocking.

clothing:
i think he should have robes. all jedi have robes anyway & they look much cooler imo. geez man, that dress they gave him.................blaaaaaaaaaaagh. robes could also cover that.

they gave him a cool looking face & then ruined it by giving him an a$$ on his head & a dress to wear in the movie........ maybe it was laundry day, he had no clothes, so he had to wear his wifes dress into battle. hmmmmm.

anyway cant wait till its released.

Mest · 01-09-2003, 08:14 PM

hey i have a pretty good front view of saesse tiin from one of the star wars cards that i got when i bought galactic battlegrounds. it is of him WITHOUT the robe. if you want it i can scan it and email you the pic.

Psyk0Sith · 01-09-2003, 08:35 PM

Yeah send it, that should help.

read a few posts back and you shouldnt have too much problems finding my e-mail.

thanx!

NeoMarz1 · 01-09-2003, 10:54 PM

Hey Psyko, Just wanted to say that he looks waycool. I cant wait to see what you do with this guy. You know I'd skin just about any model youve made... It's just that... well... as you know I'm knee deep in model bits.

Mars out!

Psyk0Sith · 01-10-2003, 12:45 AM

Thanx!,

Yeah i know man, that's why i gave the job to inbred, but you can do some alternate skins if you want (and if you have time), that'd be a great addition.

Don't worry i'll let you finish Zam!

Sinister12 · 01-10-2003, 01:41 AM

I hope this image helps, it's sorta from the same perspective as the first screen of yours Psykosith.

two points.

* his nose is thinner at the tip and points downwards more, instead of outwards.

* his horns on the side are thicker a bit further closer to the tip.

* also, his nose doesnt curve out, it kinda curves downwards, if you know what I mean.

* eye sockets/eyes need to be smaller

Apart from that, it's a little hard to give more suggestions/observations until the model is a little more complete.

inbredyokel · 01-10-2003, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wannadie
cool, I been waiting for this one, one of my favourite jedi, did'nt know his name tho.

holy cr@p, the back his head looks like an a$$. that was shocking.

clothing:
i think he should have robes. all jedi have robes anyway & they look much cooler imo. geez man, that dress they gave him.................blaaaaaaaaaaagh. robes could also cover that.

they gave him a cool looking face & then ruined it by giving him an a$$ on his head & a dress to wear in the movie........ maybe it was laundry day, he had no clothes, so he had to wear his wifes dress into battle. hmmmmm.

anyway cant wait till its released.

Normally I'd whole-heartedly agree with you, but without new animations, to me robes look like crap no matter how well weighted they are (my apologies to those modelers out there who have done great robes

). Skinning them isn't too fun either, because the textures end up looking simplistic and artificial no matter how much detail is poured in.

Sinister12 · 01-10-2003, 01:47 AM

Hope this helps

skywalker19 · 01-10-2003, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by inbredyokel
Normally I'd whole-heartedly agree with you, but without new animations, to me robes look like crap no matter how well weighted they are (my apologies to those modelers out there who have done great robes ). Skinning them isn't too fun either, because the textures end up looking simplistic and artificial no matter how much detail is poured in.

Ah i think we should just stick with the standard robed option,some people like it.

inbredyokel · 01-10-2003, 06:06 PM

Yeah, it'd be ideal to do both. I'm just sayin if it came down to one or the other, my personal preference is for non-robed.

skywalker19 · 01-10-2003, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by inbredyokel
Yeah, it'd be ideal to do both. I'm just sayin if it came down to one or the other, my personal preference is for non-robed.

i agree with ya yokel, unrobed is my preference too.

Sinister12 · 01-10-2003, 08:10 PM

Well, in terms of Saesee, i'd go for robed, it makes him look sort of more like an established Master. The robed version of Plo Koon model looks fantastic.

Mest · 01-10-2003, 09:46 PM

I emailed you the pic Psyk0Sith. if you need a larger version just tell me and i will send you one. sorry if the pic doesnt help much.

Psyk0Sith · 01-11-2003, 12:07 AM

Thanks, it's fine, we cant see much of him but still.

Mest · 01-11-2003, 12:39 AM

i guess you could use it to find out how to do the sleeves at least. again i am sorry for the poor pic, i had forgotten that he had his lightsaber in the way.