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Old 03-30-2003, 10:21 PM   #1
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Question Legal?

Recently, I found a large stash of 5 1/4" floppies. All of these discs had copies of old games on them, 41 total, half of which i had never heard of. I thought, "If I sold these I ebay, I could get at least a couple of dollars." Then I realized that, because they were copies, it might be illegal. Can someone tell me if this is true, because I really want to get rid of them (hopefully in exchange for $).
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Old 03-31-2003, 12:34 AM   #2
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If they aren't original copies, then reselling them is illegal. Sorry.
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Old 04-01-2003, 09:07 AM   #3
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Old 04-01-2003, 07:09 PM   #4
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well, can I give them to Goodwill as a tax writeoff?
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Old 04-02-2003, 01:15 PM   #5
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If you can prove that they are backup disks, and that the originals have become corrupted then you can sell them. Companies, including LEC, used to recommend to people to copy the floppy disks in case the originals broke.


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Old 04-02-2003, 07:57 PM   #6
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But also: They're 5 1/4 inch floppies... I SERIOUSLY doubt ANYONE would care... I'm sure there's probably only 5 people left with 5 1/4 inch drives anyway!

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Old 04-03-2003, 08:36 PM   #7
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can I use them as fire wood?
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Old 04-04-2003, 11:29 AM   #8
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Only if it's not to start any illegal fires.
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Old 04-04-2003, 12:05 PM   #9
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You could delete the games and sell the antique floppies.

Can you name some of the games?
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Old 04-04-2003, 07:18 PM   #10
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Old 05-04-2003, 04:53 AM   #11
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Leisure Suit Larry and some others are popular, I'm sure some people would want them.

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Old 05-04-2003, 03:10 PM   #12
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if they weren't 5"1/4, i'd buy them. and also, Alien426, that would only work if sheaday6 had a 5"1/4 drive to use to delete the files, which very few people do these days, it would involve haveing a very old computer, or a seperate drive for his cutrrent computer which would make no logical sense.

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i dunno, i think big floppies will make a come back, like vintage clothing or scooby doo
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Old 05-05-2003, 03:39 AM   #14
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...a 5"1/4 drive to use to delete the files...
Just use a magnet.
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Old 05-05-2003, 06:18 PM   #15
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Just sell the games! The worst that will have is a "cease and desist" letter. Some of the those games might be incredibly rare to collector's DON'T DELETE THEM! (There are some games that NO-ONE has been able to find copies of!)

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Old 05-05-2003, 06:44 PM   #16
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Police Quest and Space Quest II, thank you and goodnight

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Old 05-06-2003, 09:00 AM   #17
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those games are all so old...are they the ones with the green text and black backround?


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i dunno, i haven't actually played them
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i dunno, i haven't actually played them
well the copy right of the games does run out eventually so im not sure


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Old 05-07-2003, 12:30 AM   #20
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Copyrights expire 50 years after the author/creators death. Maybe it's different since they were made by big corporations, not sure.


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Old 05-07-2003, 11:03 PM   #21
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are you sure, because abondonware games are all legal because the copyrights ran out, and there aren't many games made in 1953
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Old 05-07-2003, 11:58 PM   #22
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Not sure at all really. In government class we learned about copyrights a couple months ago and that what it said, but it seemed to be aimed more towards literature so the laws may differ.


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Old 05-08-2003, 12:44 AM   #23
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are you sure, because abondonware games are all legal because the copyrights ran out, and there aren't many games made in 1953
Abandonware is just software that nobody wants to exploit commercially any more (true abandonware, at least). It is still covered by copyright.


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Old 05-08-2003, 08:21 AM   #24
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Yeah, Skinkie is correct. It's 50 years after the authors first death (or, if the works are published after his/her death, 50 years after publication), and that goes for anything. That's the UK law anyway, I read about it in THE BIG BOOK OF LAW or something along the lines of, I don't know how it would work internationally. Even so, with things like games, many people have contributed towards their making, and the copyright is owned by Lucas Arts in this case, so who knows.

And yeah, Abandonware's only abandonware if the company who owns the rights to it lets you have it for free, and even then there's probably a fine line. For instance, Rockstar have released GTA for free, and Revolution have done the same for Lure of the Temptress.

Maybe when the company completely dies too? Who owns the copyrights then?
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Old 05-08-2003, 03:14 PM   #25
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I guess if we just go and put a bullet in Roberta Williams' head, then we can all enjoy free Leisure Suit Larry games. Yay!
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Old 05-09-2003, 03:21 AM   #26
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Wouldn't that be Al Lowe for LSL and Roberta for King's Quest etc.?
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Old 05-09-2003, 04:53 AM   #27
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That's probably more correct, but isn't Roberta the founder of Sierra, so all Sierra titles should be free if something terrible happened to her?
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Old 05-09-2003, 05:11 AM   #28
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I guess the rights would belong to the mother company of Sierra (whoever that may be at the moment, it was sold several times). That's also for the sake of probable (although not likely) future adventure games that Mrs. Williams could produce.

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Old 05-09-2003, 05:48 PM   #29
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Hehe I could turn the Game Developer's Conference into living hell!
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